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re: I don't understand what people expect Israel to do
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:53 am to Sasquatch45
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:53 am to Sasquatch45
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Its the middle east do its a shite show . Has been for a 1000 years
Correct, but if the US is smart about it (I know that’s asking a lot of our leadership), we never need to be embroiled in another ME war again.
Leverage relationships we have there with the Arab nations and support Israel enough to be the deterrent in the neighborhood.
The truth is the US understands far too little of the ME so we need to stay as far out of it as we can. Every time we get involved it ends badly.
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:24 am to Penrod
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As long as it takes for those other Muslim countries to start launching rockets at Israel. If they leave Israel alone it would last forever,
That’s the perfect reason to escalate a situation with Iran. Too bad it’s not what’s happening. I was under the impression Hamas was in Gaza so they need to kill all those women and kids for good measure. Hamas could be anywhere so let’s just start a war with someone else. They don’t have to pay for it so whatever I guess.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:26 am to Grumpy Nemesis
Well Israel is an ally while Ukraine isn’t.
So there is that.
Plus Russia backs Iran, will be a tough one for the Ukraine bros.
So there is that.
Plus Russia backs Iran, will be a tough one for the Ukraine bros.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:27 am to Grumpy Nemesis
Pulled pork sandwiches with a couple of cold beers?
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:27 am to lake chuck fan
This is why Europe doesn't care. Yet.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:31 am to Grumpy Nemesis
Israel is not in as bad a position as it used to be. It is not all Trump, but Trump has done a good job of having the Arab nations begin the process of normalizing (too strong a word right now) relations with Israel. Isolating Iran, who has made no friends with most Arab nations, has helped. Just look at the tepid reactions of the Arab world to Israel's strike. A generation ago this would have meant an Israeli- Arab conflict - with the Arabs partnering with the Persians. Not anymore.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 8:34 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:37 am to RoyalWe
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I expect them to defend themselves. I wish they would completely eliminate any faction whose entire purpose is to destroy them. My empathy and compassion for aggressive violent "coexist" motherfrickers is pretty much spent. I don't care if it's Hamas, Iranian fundamentalists, or "free Palestine" dipshits. Take the gloves off.
Why is it important to you for Israel to exist?
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 8:38 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:40 am to Hangit
Ahhhhh, here is the age old hate of Israel coming out, Jews are money grubbers. . Do you really believe Israel has access to more money than the oil rich Arabian countries? And the current leaders of Israel have nothing to do with the anti Israel hate in the Middle East. This goes back, as noted, 1,000's of years ago. You do realize, mabe not probably, that the Arab countries sided with Hitler in WWII ?
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:59 am to FLTech
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They want Israel to do nothing and get blown up by everybody around them. Why? Because Trump is bad
And because "Jews bad," "muh white(ish) evil Colonalist oppressors stealing their land and terrorizing those poor brown, innocent, peaceful, loving brown muslims in Palestine.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:12 am to 4cubbies
quote:It's not, but it's important for me that people who wish genocide on others not be allowed to be successful. Those people are evil.
Why is it important to you for Israel to exist?
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 9:14 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:35 am to RoyalWe
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It's not, but it's important for me that people who wish genocide on others not be allowed to be successful.
Including the people in Israel who are actively committing genocide in Gaza?
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:51 am to 4cubbies
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Why is it important to you for Isreal to exist?
"I will bless them who bless thee and curse them who curse thee" Genesis 12:3
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:30 am to 4cubbies
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Why is it important to you for Israel to exist?
Because they are the only democracy in the region and an ally of us in one of the most strategic regions on the planet.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:33 am to Grumpy Nemesis
My issue is israel always running to us with their problems.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:34 am to 4cubbies
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Including the people in Israel who are actively committing genocide in Gaza?
Please provide specifics from a reliable source.
ETA: I don't know why i bother with you. You're entire knowledge base comes from what you've "heard on the news" or seen in pop culture. None of it is based on fact or reality.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 10:36 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:37 am to TheFonz
Modern Israel will inevitably fall. The crazy part is the founder wasnt even religious. SOME Jews will say they needed a homeland but if we offered them a piece of Alaska they would've turned it down.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:43 am to TheFonz
quote:the "looking out for number 1" began with breaking agreements from Balfour Declaration on...
but you can't blame them for looking out for number 1
and many many dead innocent of their victims
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:56 am to BugAC
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:17 am to BugAC
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I don't know why i bother with you. You're entire knowledge base comes from what you've "heard on the news" or seen in pop culture.
Who are you quoting? Can you please link a single sentence of mine indicating that I've heard anything on the news, ever? I'll wait.
I don't know why I bother with you. You're so incredibly emotional and dishonest. All you are capable of is getting upset and lashing out by making up lies and doubling down on them as if that gives them credibility.
Why not just be honest?
If you are asking for sources of poeple in Gaza being killed by the IDF, I can provide many. I already suspect you are plugging your ears and denying that Israel is doing anything other than being perfect little saints, though.
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For some reason, Israel won't let any reporters into Gaza. They are actively refusing to allow any evidence of their crimes to be seen by anyone outside of Gaza. I'm sure you have an explanation for that, right?
I'm sure you're going to say any news that doesn't support your narrative is fake or shouldn't count because it doesn't support your narrative. Such a lazy and dishonest way to engage. Don't participate in threads if you can't participate in threads.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 11:18 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:20 am to RollTide4Ever
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The crazy part is the founder wasnt even religious.
Only about a quarter of Jews in Israel are religious. The whole AnTiSemEtE! nonsense is so tired and irrelevant. No one cares about what religion anyone wants to claim or practice. We're all sick of people being killed for no reason.
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