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re: I don’t know what to think. Crooks acted alone vs Didnt

Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:49 am to
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:49 am to
Whatever the case, we very likely may never know the exact story since the investigating entity is wholly corrupted to the core.



What we do know is that the permanent reigning bipartisan regime has repeatedly demonstrated that they are willing to use any method imaginable to maintain their death-grip on power: phony impeachments, orchestrated riots, lab-created pandemics, stolen elections and even pushing the world to the brink of a global conflict.

So it is hardly a stretch of the imagination to question if assassination is yet another strategy for the Deep State to sow societal chaos.
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 11:55 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296201 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:49 am to
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Come the frick on, Roger. You’re smarter than this.


Yes which is why I believe its no conspiracy. The kid was a rank amateur.


Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4385 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:55 am to
I know if I was risk life and liberty to assinate the former President and Republican nominee, I'd snag a 20 year old with no shooting or tactical experience to carry out my diabolical plan. Come on.... No.

NOW, IF YOU SAY THE PLOT WAS TO DEGRADE SECURITY to the point to allow this to happen, I may listen. Sorry about the accidental caps lock.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35426 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:59 am to
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I don’t know what to think. Crooks acted alone vs Didnt

Both.

He believed he was acting alone. His actions, in his mind, were his own and no one else's.

But somewhere along the line leading up to the attempt, someone(s) injected themselves and began using power of suggestion and other methods to give Crooks a "little nudge". He was then watched, followed and it became obvious what the plan was, so someone(s) deliberately left a prime sniping location wide open to make Crooks' job a lot easier.

That's my $.02. He acted "alone" but had some help that he never even knew was there.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5311 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:02 pm to
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You’re a retard if you believe this.

I believe even the best of the best frick up sometimes.

The Seattle Seahawks thought it was a good idea to throw a slant route on 2nd and goal from the two with a timeout remaining and one of the most physical RB's of all time in the backfield. Clearly someone paid off Pete Carroll so the Seahawks would lose the Super Bowl. There's no other explanation for the stupidity of the call.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:04 pm to
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Yes which is why I believe its no conspiracy. The kid was a rank amateur.


OK, so it’s too dangerous to expect members of the Secret Service to walk on a four degree slope of a one story building despite the fact that the counter snipers were on top of a building with a fourteen degree slope. Got it.

You’re retarded if you believe this. Again, you could fall from that roof and probably not break a leg.
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56674 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:07 pm to
It is a little more than that. The story here is the epic failure of the Secret Service. I doubt we had a grassy knoll shooter but the SS definitely turned a blind eye to what was going on!
Posted by tigerlion
Member since Jul 2009
2061 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:09 pm to
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How did the local cops not do their job.


The local cops DID do their job that day which was traffic duty (don’t interfere)

The Dallas cops in 1963 also did their job - only 4 cops needed for the motorcade and you are needed BEHIND the motorcade not on the sides of it.

All orchestrated. The incompetence of the DEI hire SS agents only makes the lone gunman story slightly more plausible.

Crooks kid = Lee Harvey Oswald

By the time Oswald realized he had been framed, it was too late. Ruby then did his job.

Posted by BawtHouse
Member since Dec 2021
437 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:12 pm to
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Two questions: 1. Why was this prime, obvious firing position left unsecured? 2. How did this “kid” know it would be unguarded? There are other troubling questions, but if you can’t answer these two, then gtfo.


1 is a great question and must be investigated rigorously. Ineptness by local PD and lack of oversight by SS easily explain this, though. Still must be investigated.

2. It’s pretty obvious he didn’t know it would be guarded, which explains why he was walking around scoping things out and flying drones. If he knew it would be unguarded(planned), he would have shown up at go time and gone straight to it. He didn’t. He explored and looked for a place to shoot from. So….yeah.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14449 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:12 pm to
I do the smart thing and don’t come to conclusions until enough information is available.
Posted by TheGooner
Baton Rouwage
Member since Jul 2016
1210 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:13 pm to
I may have some details incorrect here but wasn’t it reported that the kid had 2 vehicles nearby?

If he lived nearly an hour away from the site, then how did he get 2 vehicles there by himself?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24630 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:17 pm to
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I believe even the best of the best frick up sometimes.

The Seattle Seahawks thought it was a good idea to throw a slant route on 2nd and goal from the two with a timeout remaining and one of the most physical RB's of all time in the backfield. Clearly someone paid off Pete Carroll so the Seahawks would lose the Super Bowl. There's no other explanation for the stupidity of the call.


This would have been the equivalent of them putting the defense on the field on 2nd and goal.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20147 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:17 pm to
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The local cops DID do their job that day which was traffic duty (don’t interfere)

The Dallas cops in 1963 also did their job - only 4 cops needed for the motorcade and you are needed BEHIND the motorcade not on the sides of it.


Is your thinking that all Dallas cops were in on the Kennedy assassination? And all Butler cops were in on the Trump attempted assassination?

The cop that tried to crawl up on the roof, and very likely made Crooks rush his shots, must not have gotten the memo.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20147 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:20 pm to
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I may have some details incorrect here but wasn’t it reported that the kid had 2 vehicles nearby?


The official narrative is that he had a car and a bicycle. I would imagine if true, he transported the bike with the car.
Posted by tigerlion
Member since Jul 2009
2061 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:28 pm to
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Is your thinking that all Dallas cops were in on the Kennedy assassination? And all Butler cops were in on the Trump attempted assassination?


I’m saying the exact opposite of this. The local cops were never involved in any of the orchestrating. They were purposely kept farther away from the protectee in both cases. Butler cops must stick together in this.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34108 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:29 pm to
Even you assume he “lucked” into this…

quote:

So he just happens to zero in on the perfect firing position. One that just so happens to be unguarded.


This is the part I can’t get past..

quote:

the SS was aware of the security risk, it did nothing to get Trump out of danger.


Despite knowing of the possible risk they allowed the guy to get off multiple unobstructed shots before doing anything.

When your SOLE job is to prevent exactly what happened from happening and there were multiple layers of “errors” it’s really hard not to ask if this was intentional?


Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:31 pm to
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I believe even the best of the best frick up sometimes.


How many Secret Service members were there? Like 50+? Not one of them thought of top of the building? Yeah, bullshite.

It reminds me when I was working the Presidential Debates back in 2008 when Obama and McCain were running against each other. I set up conferences for the university at the time, so needless to say I was busy in the months leading up to the debates to make sure it went off without a hitch.

Well one of the people I worked with was an idiot redneck and really our workhorse. Like for instance he’d say idiotic shite like “You know they say, tails never fails.” And when I respond with “…50% of the time.” He’d say that they tested it and it was 7 out of 10 times, and when I asked him if that’s what he did, he said yeah. So a mental midget to put it mildly.

In July he said to me the following:

Him: “Did ya hear they’re cancelling the debate?”

Me: “They’re not cancelling the debates, Jethro.”

Him: “Aw nah! New polls came out and said that there’s a 70% chance they’re being cancelled.”

Me: “And why is that, Jethro?”

Him: “Now OML, I know you ain’t stupid. Do you think some good old boys from Mississippi are going to put up with a n&$&! being President? Hell my buddy Jasper was thinking about camping out on the hill right above the Ford Center and wait for Obama to get out of his limo and then just capping his arse!”

Me: “Yeah, Jethro, “top of the hill” isn’t going to be a place that the Secret Service thinks through, you fricking retard.”

So we had to go to our boss over that shite, but we didn’t want him fired either since he was the workhorse. The Secret Service was going to be arriving next month to set up the debate and interview us, and we knew that he could not be allowed to talk to them. He asked for weeks why he wasn’t being interviewed by Secret Service when the rest of us were, but our boss didn’t tell him the truth until two weeks before the debate.

Our boss told him he was giving him two weeks paid leave until after the debates, and he got out a campus map pointing at where his classes were and where the closest parking lot was to those classes at those times, and if he was caught outside of those parameters and ever talked to a member of the Secret Service and especially a journalist (Jethro was exactly the person those scumbags were looking for), then he’d be fired. He would have definitely been fired today for that and narrowly avoided it.
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 12:34 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154585 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:33 pm to
Gross negligence with a heavy dose of incompetence due to DEI and a true hate for Trump is what I’m going with as of now.

His lack of much online presence is perplexing at his age though.


The TV show evil had a scene where the devil recruited a young man to shoot up a bunch of people. Propaganda and indoctrination is real and it works.

They’ve been calling Trump Hitler for so long and saying he’s a threat to the country and groups of people this is to be expected.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34896 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:44 pm to
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Why didn’t they give RFK Secret Service Protection despite the fact that he had three attempts on his life in the past year and Presidential candidates explicitly get SS Protection because his father was assassinated? There can only be two reasons:


So according to you they are killing RFK by not giving him SS and they are killing Trump via the SS they provide for him. Thats an awfully convenient binary.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75189 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:47 pm to
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And he's acting completely alone on this?

Carrying multiple phone with encryption and international contacts.
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