re: I am a conservative who believes the job of teaching is under paid

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But if a teacher can do nothing, they need to quit their job. It’s an excuse. And a bad one.

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You can't reasonably make such a statement without also addressing the teacher's latitude for maintaining discipline in her class.

If little Johnny wants to constantly act the arse, but she has to jump through miles of red tape to kick him out, then this will drag down the performance of the entire class.

I understand that there are plenty of lazy teachers who simply don't want to be evaluated on their performance, but I think it's only fair to say that if they are to be evaluated on performance, then they need to have the authority to run the class as they see fit. It it my understanding that this is almost never the case.

i'm not a teacher, but my best friend's wife is and they had a tough pregnancy that put her in the hospital for longer than normal. They also had trouble getting pregnant so it's not like they could just plan to do the boinking in october so the baby would be born during the summer. just one more reason why the profession doesn't attract top talent. She's one of the few that just loves her job and doesn't care to get into administration or teach college students.

the whole system is screwed up, the teachers know it, the parents know it, the administrators know it, the tax payers know it but no one seems to GAF enough to figure out how to fix the problems.

I am a conservative teacher that doesn't believe that we are underpaid.

Responding to the bullet points:

- socialist teachings 

To a degree, yes. But "indoctrination" is currently far more prevelent through the MSM, TV commercials, and social media. In short, conservative teachers simply don't cover bullshite in class. Additionally, there are more conservative teachers than you think.

- lack of results 

This is a tough one as it is difficult to quantify. The BS that JBE and John White are pushing with "school performance scores" is moronic. There are major issues with the system imo.

- lack of accountability 

The issue is attempting to make chicken salad out of chicken shite. With "no child left behind", failure is not being able to take a child with an IQ of 40 and turn them into Einstein.

- and government ran and that equals waste and lack of production

Agree fully.


As for the issues with education imho:

1. Reign in "special education." When a VERY large portion of your budget deals with 10% of your student population (and growing), then the average "cost per child" is grossly skewed. This has to be addressed imo.

2. Revamp the "guaranteed curriculum".
Why do we have World History AND World Geography? Why is American History divided into two parts...taught in 7th grade and 11th grade no less? Why don't we have a US Geography? Why don't we have "tracks" based on ability. Does the SPED kid, who will never go to college, need Algebra? Why don't we have "Consumer Math" as an intro Math course anymore? Why do we require foreign language as a graduation requirement? In short...we have too many teachers covering subject matter that, while interesting, isn't pertinent for most.

I would focus on three tracks beginning in 9th grade. By the time a student enters 11th grade, they should be in either a college preparatory curriculum, a "trade based" preparatory curriculum, or a GED class.

3. Discipline has to be a focal point. SPED students are untouchable, and are the root cause for roughly half of all disciplinary issues (despite being a small portion of the student population). SPED students with "behavioral issues" are only allowed to be "exluded" from school for 10 days...after that, they are pretty much untouchable. This is a HUGE iisue imho.

4. Online schooling needs to be implemented. Brick and mortar schools need to stop being constructed after current construction is complete.



TLDR - Betsy Devos and the DOE, and John White and the state DOE, are the issues. Those two people could radically change the face of education overnight imho. Put "the leg" in charge and I would kick arse and make shite happen.

Lastly, I am not a member of the union.

everyone needs basic algebra. algebra 2 is another story. hell you don't even use quadratic equations in real life unless you go into engineering of some sort. That can be taught in college.
School year round works. Everyone that has worked in a system likes it cause you get breaks in fall, spring, summer and winter. Kids retain more.

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English hasn't changed in 400+ years
Math all the way through Calculus hasn't changed in 400 years.
Science that would be taught in K-12 hasn't changed in 80 years.

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that's a serious level of stupid

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In the state of Mississippi teachers don't have paid maternal leave. That is seriously F****ed up.

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Most school systems have policies that allow teacher to accumulate generous amounts of sick leave.

Now if they are not allowed to use this leave for maternal leave then that is a problem, but probably not.

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1. Reign in "special education." When a VERY large portion of your budget deals with 10% of your student population (and growing), then the average "cost per child" is grossly skewed. This has to be addressed imo.

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How? Make it harder to be classified as special ed? Have the determination be made by the state not the local school district? Sounds like a good goal, but how do we do that?

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I am a conservative who believes the job of teaching is under paid

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In business, the better the salary, generally the the better people come in for employment.

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Really? I am in business as well and I can tell you the better people drive the results that allow for better pay.

I have hired some outstanding people at market or even below market rates and when they prove out they get a good raise to well above market.

Teaching is not hard from a mental standpoint. It is a challenge from who they have to deal with, but that is on the parents. There is no one in teaching who thought they were going to make it rich.

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everyone needs basic algebra.

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We will agree to disagree then.

I say for freshmen, we only need:

1. Consumer Math with an emphasis on the concept of budgets (inculding the novel concept of loans).

2. Basic Reading

3. Basic Writing

4. Basic US Geography

5. Basic Civics

6. Basic Biology

7. PE (as a tax payer, this will stave of the inevitable DIE A BEE TUS from our impoverished subset).

Thats it.

For 10th grade:

1. Reading part 2

2. Basic communication

3. Basic technology

4. PE

5,6, and 7...electives

Choices - Art, Music, Foreign Language, Performing Arts, Varsity Sports, Agriculture, Basic shop (measurements/tools etc.).

Once finished with 10th grade...the "parent or guardian" will choose the track (college prep, trade school, or GED) for their student. Once a student enters 11th grade, the track is locked. If you don't make it within the college prep or trade school track...then is GED time.
Just my .02.