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re: Hunter Biden claims there was no "laptop", sues Giuliani.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
doesn't it? If I own the data and I give another party permission to share it...
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:02 pm to Dday63
No, software companies did not sign agreement with the shop owner over possession of laptop contents. Hunter did.
Anything owned by hunter is now owned by the shop owner. Other material not hunters is not shop owners.
Anything owned by hunter is now owned by the shop owner. Other material not hunters is not shop owners.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:02 pm to Vacherie Saint
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doesn't it? If I own the data and I give another party permission to share it...
I don't think the store owner owns that data in a transferrable way.
Think of it like the great Napster debate of the late 90s. You own the CD, can you burn/distribute the contents of that CD?
The way laws/courts are establishing and interpreting personal data protections, it's similar to IP. After the Fappening, the entire mindset changed on this stuff.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:09 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
Does Hunter still claim that the laptop is not his? The only thing I have seen is that he has not said either way - whether it's his or not his.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:10 pm to bayouvette
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No, software companies did not sign agreement with the shop owner over possession of laptop contents. Hunter did.
What I'm saying is that Hunter's agreement with the shop may have transferred ownership of the hard drive, but not ownership of the data on the hard drive. Hunter might still own the data.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:11 pm to tide06
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he’s suggesting the data was hacked from somewhere and the laptop was just a Trojan horse to explain how Giuliani got it?
Which has always been the most credible option, considering the blind repair shop owner who couldn't remember chain of custody.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:14 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
Wagging the dogs tail. Wonder what are they hiding now?
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:18 pm to Dday63
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What I'm saying is that Hunter's agreement with the shop may have transferred ownership of the hard drive, but not ownership of the data on the hard drive. Hunter might still own the data.
Is that reasonable?
Let's say it was a suitcase and not a laptop. Would Hunter be able to claim that the store owner owns the suitcase, but not the clothes and money that are inside the suitcase? That sounds absurd.
Even the CD argument makes no sense, as the CD likely had legal language on it regarding the rights to copy and distribute the contents without permission. I doubt that Hunter entered into any agreement about that with the shop owner. I suspect the shopowner's contract probably stated that the "laptop and it's contents".
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Again, the hard drive allegedly contained the data but not necessarily the laptop itself. There is a potential huge chain of custody/authentication issues as it relates to the laptop itself. If you read the suit, the data was manipulated by the Defendants to make forensic analysis impossible. Anything not directly from that laptop created by the store is potentially an illegal invasion of privacy.
Now, for the emotional-irrational smoothbrains, an argument doesn't necessarily mean it's reality/the truth.
I would have thought from the get-go in 2020 that he would have been screaming from the rooftops that this was a hack. It's strange that this is his play now.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:20 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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Hunter Biden claims there was no "laptop", sues Giuliani.
The Bidens remind me of the song “Wasn’t Me”. It’s like that’s all they have to say to make their story true.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:20 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
Either that POS is delusional or has started using again. I doubt he ever stopped.
Maybe he does it in private now. He is too erratic.
Maybe he does it in private now. He is too erratic.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
Not a good comparison. Music is IP. Fappening was hacked.
This was neither.
This was neither.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:22 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I would have thought from the get-go in 2020 that he would have been screaming from the rooftops that this was a hack. It's strange that this is his play now.
That's not what he is arguing. He is arguing Rudy had no right to the data.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:26 pm to VoxDawg
Signature is text book Russian tradecraft.
Everyone knows that.
Everyone knows that.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:27 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I would have thought from the get-go in 2020 that he would have been screaming from the rooftops that this was a hack. It's strange that this is his play now.
That’s my thought too.
This info’s been out there for 4 years. If someone illegally accessed my private info and disseminated it, I’d be raising hell NOW.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:29 pm to Godfather1
It’s simple. In a post Garland world, all you need is a case and the right judge and jury. This is about crushing their enemies
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:30 pm to Godfather1
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A smart person would want to lay low, not bring anymore shine onto that laptop and it’s contents than he had to.
To my next point kids, Don't Do Drugs!!
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:32 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Is that reasonable?
When you consider copyright and privacy laws, it is certainly reasonable.
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Let's say it was a suitcase and not a laptop. Would Hunter be able to claim that the store owner owns the suitcase, but not the clothes and money that are inside the suitcase? That sounds absurd.
I don't think the shop would even own the suitcase. But if the suitcase contained private information or extremely valuable objects, then there is a decent argument the shop would have no right to profit from them.
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. I doubt that Hunter entered into any agreement about that with the shop owner. I suspect the shopowner's contract probably stated that the "laptop and it's contents".
The agreement is allegedly postedabove. It simply says "equipment left over 90 days will be considered abandoned." It doesn't even really say it becomes the property of the shop. But there is no mention of personal data.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:33 pm to Dday63
And I'm not saying Hunter still owned his data, because I have not kept up with how those statutes are interpreted. I'm just saying he might still own it
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:36 pm to Dday63
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That's not what he is arguing. He is arguing Rudy had no right to the data.
I haven’t read the complaint. Is Hunter arguing that the data is false or just that it should not have been released?
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