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re: How soon before Trump starts arresting crooked lawyers and Judges for obstruction?

Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:42 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:42 am to
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That's a dangerous path to start down. Now, impeachments, I'm all for.


Correct. There is already a way to examine these issues within our current system and Constitution
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:43 am to
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Trump starts arresting


Wtf.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:44 am to
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He has absolutely zero issue with lawfare against Trump.


Great example of the emotional manipulation used to create NPC talking points and group sync/echo Chambers.

Just because I didn't melt down at a level deemed appropriate, that means I somehow support it, without me ever saying so. This is like in North Korea when people get jailed for not crying hard enough when the dear leader dies.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:46 am to
Of course, given the current makeup of the Senate, convictions are doubtful.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:48 am to
By design (similar to why Trump wasn't convicted either time)
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:48 am to
Now you stepped in it.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36335 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 12:06 pm to
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Hopefully never. That indicates a failed state and authoritarian takeover.


Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 12:07 pm to
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This is what happens with partisan brain rot and dehumanizing the out group.


Dude. You cling to the constitutional arguments all the time but suddenly think it's irrelevant? You trying to claim anyone else is partisan is transparent bullshite.
Posted by LCrox
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 12:17 pm to
Wonder if any of the crooked lawyers or Judges have overstated the value of assets in order to get a loan
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 12:33 pm to
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Dude. You cling to the constitutional arguments all the time but suddenly think it's irrelevant?


What?

Decatur implied MAGA wants authoritarianism. I told him that was silly and explained what was really going on.

Where do "constitutional arguments" fit into that discussion tree?
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17301 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 12:34 pm to
Is that why Biden did it?

Wasn’t cool when he was arresting lawyers for Muh Insurrection when they were just giving legal advice.

That said, it’s not as if judges and lawyers can’t commit actual crimes. If either were involved in some kind of criminal activity that is an actual, as opposed to made up crime-
I’m fine with them going down.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13567 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 12:34 pm to
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This is what happens when both sides succumb to populism


FIFY
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56147 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 12:38 pm to
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authoritarian takeover.


By who, government officials or rogue judges? Apparently judges have more authoritatian power than a president does. If that's the case maybe it's time to start electing federal judges by the voting public because judgeships have definitely become political over the last 10-15 years.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 12:40 pm to
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Now, impeachments, I'm all for.
The problem is, any punishment of a judge who oversteps their bounds is extremely rare.

All that ever happens is akin to a strongly worded letter.

That is why judge-shopping with horrendous rulings occur over and over again.

No one ever faces consequences.

People always talk about police officers never being punished.

Judges facing consequences for their actions is so astronomically rare that it makes punishments of police officers seem common.

Judges are afforded far too much leeway and they need to be reined in.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13567 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 12:42 pm to
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Judges are afforded far too much leeway and they need to be reined in.


We absolutely need more judicial oversight.

But it can't look like locking judges up unless they truly break the law.

For that matter, we (obviously) need more oversight on everything. I would never have said that we could actually trust the government, but it's worse than I thought it was.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 12:43 pm to
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Hopefully never. That indicates a failed state and authoritarian takeover.


In all seriousness, what's the appropriate response to a politically-motivated judiciary that is only emboldened when the administration uses the judicial system to respond to abuse of said system?

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 12:47 pm to
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We absolutely need more judicial oversight.
We do, but it needs to have teeth.

Right now it’s akin to simply saying “their ruling was wrong and it was poorly constructed, they should feel bad”.

Nothing more than a strongly worded letter.

Judges that make insane rulings that are tossed out by higher courts need to immediately face a review board to justify their actions.

If their arguments are not legally sound, they immediately lose their judgeship.
This post was edited on 2/10/25 at 12:49 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:04 pm to
Maybe decisions could be peer reviewed?
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59293 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:07 pm to
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Only when there is no oversight over this being done ex-parte.


Which is what happened. The judge issued the TRO with the complete absence of any representation of the White House and in the TRO demanded the deletion of data.

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:08 pm to
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Maybe decisions could be peer reviewed?

Something needs to be figured out.

Bad judicial rulings that are not legally sound need to have consequences.
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