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re: How soon before Trump starts arresting crooked lawyers and Judges for obstruction?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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He described my view as "a grounded, sensible way to look at things."
Did he claim your view is the only grounded, sensible way to look at things? Are you under the impression that two reasonable, grounded people are always in agreement?
You use logical fallacies on a regular basis; this is just another example.
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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He described my view as "a grounded, sensible way to look at things."
If the grounded, sensible way is wrong, then I was asking what is the right way?
To be clear, it's the grounded, sensible way within the confines of a functioning, gentlemanly, norm-centric system.
At present, I think it's a bit like proposing a duel during the Second Battle of Fallujah.
This post was edited on 2/10/25 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's exactly why the people promoting emotionality and partisan brain rot want you to do it. You're moldable in that outrage into their NPCs.
Them having motives for pushing it doesn't negate my reasons for being black pilled TBH
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:10 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Great way to describe it.
To be clear, it's the grounded, sensible way within the confines of a functioning, gentlemanly, norm-centric system.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:14 pm to Flats
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Did he claim your view is the only grounded, sensible way to look at things?
No he attacked the part about being grounded and sensible as being suboptimal
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Are you under the impression that two reasonable, grounded people are always in agreement?
Irrelevant. See above.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:15 pm to Pettifogger
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At present, I think it's a bit like proposing a duel during the Second Battle of Fallujah.
Only because emotional thinking is overtaking rationality and the result of this is more perceived polarity.
Hence, "partisan brain rot" (which isn't exclusive to the right-pole by any means)
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:16 pm to Pettifogger
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doesn't negate my reasons for being black pilled TBH
The fact that the black pill community has been dealt death blow over death blow since the election should accomplish this.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Irrelevant.
Ah, the Jesse Jackson "the point is moot" skit.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:18 pm to Flats
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Ah, the Jesse Jackson "the point is moot" skit.
No, it referenced (which you omitted) the above, which I'll repost here:
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No he attacked the part about being grounded and sensible as being suboptimal
His attack was about being grounded and pragmatic by themselves.
Your responses involved assuming others can be both, when he was rejecting both.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Only because emotional thinking is overtaking rationality and the result of this is more perceived polarity.
I just don't think so. I think there is a cost to playing by the rules in a system where only one "side" is consistently required to do so, and the cost swallows the wins most of the time.
I also think the "rationality first" crowd underestimates the present chaos, overestimates the chaos to result from (further) pushing of the norms, and undervalues the effectiveness of pushing norms as a way of credibility testing. In other words, I think plenty of the left-leaning systems we'll push extralegally will blink to save face and fight another day.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Your responses involved assuming others can be both, when he was rejecting both.
Irrelevant.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
Thinking conventional wisdom will always the most "grounded, sensible way to look at things" can be a horrible trap.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The fact that the black pill community has been dealt death blow over death blow since the election should accomplish this.
You: "This reckless action is destined to fail,I've been saying it was a mistake to go this route."
Also You: "All this winning and you're black pilling?"
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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a failed state
Seems we have tip toed into that water a bit lately.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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crooked
Did you miss that part?
Just because they are a lawyer or judge they still cant be crooked.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:23 pm to Pettifogger
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I just don't think so. I think there is a cost to playing by the rules in a system where only one "side" is consistently required to do so
But this is not true. It's just based on feelings and echo chamber memes.
That's why today I've been apt to point out how this exact same response happened under Biden.
This is like the "Biden ignore the Supreme Court" meme that sought the same goal. That didn't happen, either.
But people think it did, and they get angry, and they're even more angry now Trump has to deal with it, so they think Trump should ignore it "too" (when that never happened with Biden).
See the escalatory behavior all based in anger-fear?
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I also think the "rationality first" crowd underestimates the present chaos,
Trump would have never won like he did if this were true.
That's why the black pill types were so certain it wouldn't happen (referenced in a post or 2 prior)
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:24 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Thinking conventional wisdom will always the most "grounded, sensible way to look at things" can be a horrible trap.
Again, those are his words, not mine. Flats just fell into the same analytical issue.
I'm speaking to his degradation of being grounded and/or sensible, and trying to discuss the alternatives.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:25 pm to alphaandomega
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Did you miss that part?
No I've gotten into the weeds on this for years discussing similar concepts (the L-word in particular)
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
Nothing about my point was premised on who said what.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 2:30 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Nobody was discussing "conventional wisdom", though.
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