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re: How soon before Trump starts arresting crooked lawyers and Judges for obstruction?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:10 pm to Wednesday
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:10 pm to Wednesday
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Is that why Biden did it?
Which judge did he have arrested for a ruling he didn't like?
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Wasn’t cool when he was arresting lawyers for Muh Insurrection when they were just giving legal advice.
Oh the Kraken bros. It was a bit different than how you're describing it, and what federal prosecution was brought against them?
I know there are 2 state prosecutions.
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it’s not as if judges and lawyers can’t commit actual crimes
Nobody is arguing that straw man, though.
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If either were involved in some kind of criminal activity that is an actual, as opposed to made up crime-
I’m fine with them going down.
Nobody disagrees.
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:11 pm to wackatimesthree
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FIFY
That's kind of a tomato/tomato, but I won't argue.
Populism is part of the journey, for sure.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:12 pm to Homesick Tiger
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By who, government officials or rogue judges?
Government officials, clearly.
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Apparently judges have more authoritatian power than a president does.
That depends. Did the President exceed his Constitutional or statutory authority? Like Biden and the mandatory vax? Are we arguing that was "judicial authoritarianism" now?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:13 pm to Pettifogger
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what's the appropriate response to a politically-motivated judiciary that is only emboldened when the administration uses the judicial system to respond to abuse of said system?
We already have the oversight/appellate process to deal with "rogue" district court judges.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:14 pm to Bard
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Which is what happened.
We're in the "oversight" phase, so it's not a scenario of "no oversight" in the quote.
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The judge issued the TRO with the complete absence of any representation of the White House and in the TRO demanded the deletion of data.
And a full hearing will happen and the appeals process will exist thereafter.
In an actual authoritarian system, none of this would occur.
This post was edited on 2/10/25 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:16 pm to CU_Tigers4life
quote:Obstruction of what?
for obstruction?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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authoritarian takeover
quote:How would the Dems be able to wield this power if there’s an authoritarian takeover?
What they fail to understand is how badly the DEMs would frick them over with this same power, once its established.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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We already have the oversight/appellate process to deal with "rogue" district court judges.
And rogue panels/COAs? How long to ultimate relief from the "rogue" action? Which administration will be there when it finishes? What happens to the rogue actor?
Surely time has some import here?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:17 pm to LSURussian
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Obstruction of what?
Feelings
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
The main question of this BS that needs to be answered is "does the Pres. have the authority to hire/appoint a person or persons to audit institutions that report to him?".
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:18 pm to Pettifogger
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Surely time has some import here?
Yes, which is why I said I hoped Trump didn't engage in this stupidity again this term like he did last time, for these exact reasons.
This is one of those "a pint of sweat saves a gallon of blood" scenarios.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:And, as I stated, it RARELY ever occurs.
We already have the oversight/appellate process to deal with "rogue" district court judges.
It has zero teeth.
The only two that were impeached in 2000s were for bribes and sexual abuse.
Before that, there were three that were impeached in the 1980s.
Before that, it was the 1930s.
There are nearly zero consequences to improper actions or poor actions of a judge.
Looking back at the list of impeached federal judges, as long as you don’t take a bribe, you can be as shitty of a judge as you want.
You are simply defending the broken system you survive within.
This post was edited on 2/10/25 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:20 pm to CU_Tigers4life
He wouldn’t arrest anyone, but if their DOJ deems it necessary to investigate them, I am all for it.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is one of those "a pint of sweat saves a gallon of blood" scenarios.
This again? So when more artfully crafted plans are implemented and still encounter rogue DCs in unfriendly circuits, we're better off how?
This is again premised on glossed-over and largely hypothesized "flaws" in the current actions, which nobody is really articulating.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:22 pm to Scruffy
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And, as I stated, it RARELY ever occurs.
It has zero teeth.
The only two that were impeached
I'm not even talking about impeachment. Only the ability to review/reverse.
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There are nearly zero consequences to improper actions or poor actions of a judge.
Because proving the necessary malice to warrant impeachment is difficult, by design of our Constitution. We structured our federal judiciary to withstand the changing of winds of administrations, cultural shifts, etc.
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You are simply defending the broken system you survive within.
Not really. This system, in some form or fashion, is thousands of years old. If there were better recourse (outside of devolution into authoritarianism), it likely would have been discovered hundreds of years ago. We've built the system (and Western society around it) to do its best to have tiers of review of the decisions to weed out the bad ones.
When societies start opening the door to punish judges for unpopular decisions (especially in eras of populism), bad things happen.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:24 pm to Pettifogger
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This again? So when more artfully crafted plans are implemented and still encounter rogue DCs in unfriendly circuits, we're better off how?
You wouldn't be dealing with nearly as many TROs and would have much stronger bases at the initial hearings.
It's not even clear that DOGE was formed legally or is acting with actual authority.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
What about DOGE seems illegally formed by the Executive branch?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:This is bullshite, and you know it.
You wouldn't be dealing with nearly as many TROs and would have much stronger bases at the initial hearings.
The same judges will implement similar TROs, despite previous precedent already existing, because there are zero consequences to that action.
We have already seen that.
We will see it again.
This TRO will be overturned and a similar one will be enacted despite the previous one being overturned.
All because there are zero consequences involved.
This all happened during Trump’s first term.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:29 pm to goatmilker
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What about DOGE seems illegally formed by the Executive branch?
Have they finally declared what it is, exactly?
There are too many lawsuits to keep up with, but there is litigation on what version of body it is (which determines what level of oversight, regulations, etc. are involved with it).
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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When societies start opening the door to punish judges for unpopular decisions (especially in eras of populism), bad things happen.
bullshite. Judges aren't special and they can face consequences just like everybody else.
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