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re: How much damage can a stupid socialist Mayor Zohran Mamdani do to NYC
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:12 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:12 pm to 4cubbies
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capitalism's need for cheap labor.
No dumbass. The unions were a large part of the issue. Capitalism doesn’t need government or unions to determine a market rate. The only thing that determines your work value is the skill set you possess.
Unions and government believe they determine that value which in turn drives up cost, lowers production and inhibits innovation. Capitalism is the opposite of everything Detroit implemented.
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:59 pm to Auburn1968
“Progressive Government” is just a nice name for Communism.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:02 pm to 4cubbies
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Detroit's demise was caused by (or at least accelerated by) capitalism's need for cheap labor. Divestment. Decentralization and Offshoring ruined Detroit - those are tenets of capitalism, not communism.
Just when I thought I’ve read the dumbest most untrue brainwashed post on this board there’s always one that one ups it. Congrats that you.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:08 pm to 4cubbies
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I know you're not proving my point that companies fled Detroit in search of cheap labor.
Although cheap labor was a part of it the socialist government was without a doubt the main cause. Taxing the industry your city depends on to subsidize giving away free shite never works and never will. There are countless cases where this is absolutely the undeniable truth. Unless you’re a brain dead liberal of course So they didn’t run from the unions and paying benefits they ran from the taxation. Cheap labor just came as a by product as Mexico and Canada offered tax free overheads. Those savings makes the savings they made with cheaper labor look like Pennie’s on the dollar. You know research is a very good tool. You should try it.
On another note I still don’t understand why one American buys a GM or Ford product when they shite in America and went across the border. And are still there to this day
Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:47 pm to 4cubbies
You are literally too stupid to have any type of conversation with I say it over and over and I read your post and was going to ignore it until you posted it again
considering you never lived in the area and know nothing about Detroit other than perhaps somebody telling you you perhaps should sit this one out like everything else
considering you never lived in the area and know nothing about Detroit other than perhaps somebody telling you you perhaps should sit this one out like everything else
Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:14 am to dafif
The capitalist system has built the highest standard of living the earth has ever known. It was built by the brightest minds of the west. Those who refute that are jealous inferiors who contribute nothing of real value in society. They think their theories and opinions should be compensated equally to the inventors and innovators, they should not. Capitalism’s search for cheap labor is countered by tariffs so that third world labor is taken out of the equation. Even the lowest IQ, lazy worthless people in this country have a higher standard of living than anyone in the third world. It is beyond time to shut these college majors down and put people back in the ditch with shovels.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:31 am to FireawayLSU
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........Canada offered tax free overheads.......
commie carney leads Canada to chasm
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:26 am to Auburn1968
Dude is literally a punk…
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:51 am to 4cubbies
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High quality materials are better for consumers and workers handling the materials
Manufacturing costs are not in bubbles. If labor costs increase, material costs must drop in order to keep target price points. It is a fine line to walk.
From 1979 - 2000 labor cost increase was the driver for upwards to 60% of inflation. That inflation then negates increases in pay.
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prioritizes profit, not efficiency
Efficiency = profit
They are one and the same.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:16 am to Auburn1968
Removed 'stupid'....no need for redundancy
FIFY
FIFY
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:19 am to 4cubbies
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me: lol
To quote you from an earlier post….
“Compelling argument”.
You did just what you mocked another poster for doing.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:02 am to UtahCajun
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From 1979 - 2000 labor cost increase was the driver for upwards to 60% of inflation. That inflation then negates increases in pay.
from 2020 to now has shown us that labor costs aren't the only drivers of inflation. Greed plays a part, too.
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Efficiency = profit
They are one and the same.
My understanding was that the claim is that capitalism prioritizes efficiency, not profit. That's obviously patently false. But people, for some reason, are uncomfortable stating that our economic system is profit-driven and that we reward greed. That's where this "efficiency, not profit" argument comes in. The name of our system is capitalism, not efficientism.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:09 am to Auburn1968
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Will NYC follow Detroit
Maybe not exactly. It’s a Mecca for the shitskins of the world. Fraud reigns supreme!
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:26 am to 4cubbies
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Give us a history lesson - when did unions come along and destroy Detroit?
The Japanese took advantage of unrealistic emission and mileage requirements in the USA, along with crippling union stranglehold to decimate the domestic auto industry, beginning in the 1970's.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:43 am to 4cubbies
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from 2020 to now has shown us that labor costs aren't the only drivers of inflation. Greed plays a part, too
Yeah, since the mid-2000's, labor and profits have switched. Labor costs have stagnated and profits now are a larger driver of inflation.
Many arguments for this, but end of the day, domestic labor is stagnate.
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My understanding was that the claim is that capitalism prioritizes efficiency, not profit. That's obviously patently false. But people, for some reason, are uncomfortable stating that our economic system is profit-driven and that we reward greed. That's where this "efficiency, not profit" argument comes in. The name of our system is capitalism, not efficientism
I am sitting in Chicago O'Hare right now (I still do not see those gender fluid bathrooms that other dude was talking about). I am on my way home from Houston. Three days of managers discussing ways to drive costs down. Key takeaways were efficiency and safety. Both cut downtime. Efficiency is gained through identifying "bad actors" in our processes. What pieces of equipment, in our areas, cause the most downtime and what can we do to decrease that downtime. Many methods were discussed, boring stuff really. But the key takeaway was "we cut downtimes due to equipment failure and we then run safer and we make more profits which in turn allow us to pay our people more.
So yes, you are 100% correct. We will always be profit driven. We must be. We cannot stop turning profit. We have 1000's of workers who depend on that profit and millions of customers who also depend on that profit. Because if we stop making profit, we cease to be a company.
But this folds into everything everyone does. We all try to maximize our profits as personal human beings. I know I do. I appreciate that you have empathy for others. That makes you human. You still need profit. A savings at the end of the day. Maybe you should be one of those who own a business. I feel you would use that empathy you have and your employees would be happy being your employee.
Bottom line Cubbies, you are right to an extent. Maybe more than many would like to admit. Only issue is, capitalism is better than any alternative we, as peons, have ever been given. Hopefully the next economic system to evolve will be better.
Hope that wasn't too TL/DR.
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 9:45 am
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:46 am to Auburn1968
Well, he's gonna bankrupt it for starters. Don't blame him though, that's what he's trying to do. A Muslim bankrupting the US's most powerful city. Masterful. Blame the brain dead idiots that voted for him and allowed this to happen.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:58 am to 4cubbies
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but the people operating within that system do harmful things often fueled by greed
Which scenario will benefit more people?
I want more for myself so I am going to work harder (greed).
No one should have more than anyone else, so I am going to do things to prevent you from having more than anyone else(envy).
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:06 am to 4cubbies
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My understanding was that the claim is that capitalism prioritizes efficiency, not profit. That's obviously patently false.
No, the claim is that in economic terms they amount to saying the same thing.
If not, then explain why and give an example that illustrates it.
I think what's patently obvious is that you can't.
No hard feelings, I couldn't either. But it wasn't my claim, so...
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 10:09 am
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:17 am to wackatimesthree
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No, the claim is that in economic terms they amount to saying the same thing.
when the definition of efficiency is profit, it's impossible to come up with an example of profits not equating to more profits. You are correct.
Private Equity has a track record of bankrupting companies in the name of short-term profits or "efficiency" if the terms are synonymous. Look at Red Lobster, Brookstone, Claire's, Kmart, Party City, etc. etc.
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