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re: How much damage can a stupid socialist Mayor Zohran Mamdani do to NYC
Posted on 4/29/26 at 4:08 pm to Auburn1968
Posted on 4/29/26 at 4:08 pm to Auburn1968
Hopefully irreparable damage.
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 4:09 pm to 4cubbies
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I'm curious what grad school was like for you.
My graduate level program was of a clinical nature. We studied mostly facts, not abstract opinions or theories. Totally different deal.
But if you think you can't use the Socratic method to completely lead/shape someone's worldview, then I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 4:17 pm to 4cubbies
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Our economic system favors ideals that hurt humans like cheap labor, cheap materials, environmental destruction, etc. etc. The economic system itself doesn't hurt or destroy anything, but the people operating within that system do harmful things often fueled by greed, which is rewarded by our economic system.
Now we're not even at the level of grad school pablum.
There's a lot of things that could be said about that nonsense, but let's keep it fairly close to the surface.
How would expensive labor be better for people?
How would expensive materials be better for people?
And of course capitalism in no way "favors" environmental destruction. What you mean to say is that capitalism rewards efficiency and it does so even if the efficiency comes at the cost of negative side-effects.
So how would inefficiency be better for people?
Posted on 4/29/26 at 4:28 pm to wackatimesthree
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But if you think you can't use the Socratic method to completely lead/shape someone's worldview, then I don't know what to tell you.
You seem to be confident that you know the ins and outs of the courses I've taken so I guess there's nothing left to discuss. I'm not in a clinical discipline, though.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 4:29 pm to wackatimesthree
I'm about to leave. I don't want you to think I'm intentionally ignoring your post but I have to get to catechism. I'll respond when I have free time.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 4:35 pm to 4cubbies
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Our economic system favors ideals that hurt humans like cheap labor, cheap materials, environmental destruction, etc. etc. The economic system itself doesn't hurt or destroy anything, but the people operating within that system do harmful things often fueled by greed, which is rewarded by our economic system.
Affordable labor is necessary. Bad faith management wants dirt cheap labor. In the long run, that's no good.
Environmental destruction - we have Environmental protection laws now. Things are much better.
Cheap materials? They do that to keep costs down. Sometimes I'd like to pay more for better quality.
Corporate Greed is a trait of mismanagement and short-sighted poor management. It's the equivalent of Corruption in Govt work and governance. The systems must work to weed out greedy and corrupt leaders in industry and in Govt.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:25 pm to Auburn1968
It needed to happen.
And I'm glad.
And I'm glad.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:26 pm to Auburn1968
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How much damage can a stupid socialist Mayor Zohran Mamdani do to NYC
The plan is jihad...
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:29 pm to 4cubbies
Did the UAW help lead and accelerate Detroit’s demise?
Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:30 pm to Rebel
Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:30 pm to Auburn1968
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How much damage can a stupid socialist Mayor Zohran Mamdani do to NYC
Not enough.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:43 pm to stout
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He's bankrupting them on purpose so he can gain more support for phase 2 of his plan which is just straight up asset seizure
I willl always believe this was/is LaToya’s plan with Nola.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:46 pm to ShoeBang
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Careful what you wish for. He’s chasing a lot of blue voters to other places where as we all know, they will continue to vote blue
Some will, but according some recent polls what we are seeing is stratification where the more conservative have had enough of the leftist idiocies and joining red states.
Funny story from NC. When so many people moved from NY and NJ, my daughter's friend said, "I don't want all of these damn Yankees moving down here and ruining what we've got." My daughter said, "Carol, you were from NJ."
Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:50 pm to Ailsa
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Let's hope the NY swamp is thoroughly drained and non-corrupt politicians put in their place to set things right.
Seems like a death spiral to me. A lot of the people who could elect someone like Rudy are leaving or have already left.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 7:54 pm to wackatimesthree
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How would expensive labor be better for people?
Is labor either cheap or expensive? Is any labor fairly priced?
How
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would expensive materials be better for people?
High quality materials are better for consumers and workers handling the materials. The race to the bottom doesn’t benefit consumers or workers.
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And of course capitalism in no way "favors" environmental destruction. What you mean to say is that capitalism rewards efficiency and it does so even if the efficiency comes at the cost of negative side-effects.
Is your point that capitalism has never harmed anyone or anything ever? That everyone operating within this economic system is concerned with humanity and the environment above actual capital?
Capitalism prioritizes profit, not efficiency.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 7:58 pm to Auburn1968
Can’t figure out who to give a frick less about: The communist mayor or the billionaire hedge fund sleaze.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:02 pm to Auburn1968
I think it’s pretty obvious as to why he’s destroying it. Like another poster said, it’s intentional. I think he’s going to bring in a massive immigration of Muslims from Canada. Same as Minnesota. People don’t understand that a true Muslim doesn’t care about being wealthy. The ultimate goal is global conquest. These people are a death cult and have an average IQ of 60. You could give all of them amnesty and they would still choose to take Medicaid.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:02 pm to 4cubbies
Do you have any opinion on Mamdani?
Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:05 pm to NIH
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Do you have any opinion on Mamdani?
He’s a globalist plant.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:20 pm to 4cubbies
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Is any labor fairly priced?
You'd have to define what that means for me to be able to answer the question, as it introduces a moral judgement that is entirely subjective. Under capitalism people make choices and the aggregate of those choices determines what a "fair price" (not the term I would use) is. Who would determine it under whatever system you think is superior to capitalism?
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High quality materials are better for consumers and workers handling the materials.
Not necessarily true at all.
I had a medical procedure today that involved the use and immediate discarding of several cheap, disposable, plastic components. High quality, re-useable material could have been used instead that would have caused the procedure to be more expensive because it would have cost more to provide the service and clean and sterilize the supplies.
How would I have benefitted from that scenario as the consumer? How would the nurse have benefitted as the end user?
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Is your point that capitalism has never harmed anyone or anything ever?
Did you read the text you quoted when you asked that question? The answer to that question is clearly in it.
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That everyone operating within this economic system is concerned with humanity and the environment above actual capital?
Again, just read what I actually write. Why do you have such trouble reading and comprehending what people are writing to you?
The point is that you are making these repeated statements that aren't necessarily true at all. And yeah, I think you got them from college. I've just heard them too many times before applied in exactly the same way from the same types of people to believe otherwise. That doesn't necessarily mean that college changed your mind...it's more likely that your affinity for Marxism is what put you in graduate school in the first place.
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Capitalism prioritizes profit, not efficiency.
I'm trying to come up with an example of how those two things are not practically synonymous in an economic context, but I can't. Can you?
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 8:21 pm
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