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re: How is Panama messing with US shipping?

Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:31 am to
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32707 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:31 am to
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We built it and that puss Carter gave it to Panama.


Carter wasn't alone. The push to give control to Panama started long before he took office.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4577 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:32 am to
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tMinions think Daddy Don
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RogerTheShrubber

Me thinks it is going to be a long, long, long, LONG 1460 more days for you roger.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:34 am to
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Me thinks it is going to be a long, long, long, LONG 1460 more days for you roger.


Its already incredibly entertaining.

Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4577 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:40 am to
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pay for the wall.


Here is an example. I recently purchased a Norwood sawmill (HD36V2 in case you care). Paid a little over 12k for the mill and trailer package. I already own 109 acres of land, with about 50 of it being trees. The price of lumber is quite high and I have promised to build a cabin for my wife above our pond. Lumber at lowes/homedepot will run about 12+K to build the cabin. By cutting my own trees and milling them into lumber, my sawmill will pay for itself. But that doesn't mean the sawmill will write me a check.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4577 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:41 am to
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Its already incredibly entertaining.


I absolutely LOVE it. My guess is that you are attempting to use humor to disguise your tears.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:42 am to
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my sawmill will pay for itself.


Sure, and the wall may some day too, but Mexico aint paying for it.

You and I will.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68769 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:47 am to
You just heard or read someone suggesting that the Chinese control the Canal and you’re repeating. The Canal has operated for years without any real problem or Chinese control. Same holds true today.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:48 am to
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The Canal has operated for years without any real problem or Chinese control.


Yeah, its not difficult to research, but reading seems to be a barrier to some.

He's lying to them, and they believe every word of it.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4577 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:49 am to
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You and I will.


You and I certainly paid the 4-5 hundred billion to take care of the illegals that came in under biden. Had the wall been built, those 10 million illegals wouldn't be here and we wouldn't have spent 400+ Billion. Paying the 8 Billion for the wall and keeping the 392+ Billion seems like a GREAT deal to me.
This post was edited on 1/21/25 at 9:58 am
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
14666 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:59 am to
Amazing that in less than 24 hours we have the main dissenting experts on the contrarian side of everything in the geopolitical sphere that doesn't align with MAGA.

I didn't know all were so well versed in the day-to-day business operations of the Panama Canal. I wish I were present in those governance meetings so I could be well-informed.

Is there a Teams meeting or Zoom invite?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 10:01 am to
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Amazing that in less than 24 hours we have the main dissenting experts on the contrarian side of everything in the geopolitical sphere that doesn't align with MAGA.


Its not contrarian to point out that you believed his lie.

The question is, with so many resources available, how the frick did yall fall for it?
Posted by TigerBogue
Red State, USA
Member since May 2006
1066 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 10:02 am to
Try to keep up….CHINA!
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4577 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 10:15 am to
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how the frick did yall fall for it?


Even more amazing is that you lefties can't understand that paying 8 billion and not paying 392+ billion is better than not paying 8 billion and paying 400+ billion.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37431 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 10:44 am to
Will Trump put the same pressure on Bukele in El Salvador if this is about immigration? He had in place almost free Visas for Chinese and other nationals arriving there and they hook up with caravans and smugglers. Maybe he can put the screws to Ortega who is doing the same thing while he threatens the Panamanian.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37431 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 10:47 am to
Take your boat on down Cap. Bring cash for the canal.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55278 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:10 am to
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I dont see lying to the American public as a negotiating strategy myself... Is Trump ignorant or lying?

Lying. That's what you do in negotiations. If you don't do that, you are a shitty negotiator.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4577 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:12 am to
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KiwiHead


I don't know. I just want to keep the vermin out.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37431 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:16 am to
Leverage Panama for the Wall?

If he wants Panamanian help with the immigration thing I don't think he has to do that. Panamanian President would welcome the help. So I'm not seeing his strategy. Seems like b.s. to deflect on something else.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:17 am to
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Lying. That's what you do in negotiations. If you don't do that, you are a shitty negotiator


But only retards will fall for it. The internet machine is testifying against them.


So why tell easily correctable lies?
This post was edited on 1/21/25 at 11:19 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55278 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:18 am to
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But only retards will fall for it. The internet machine is testifying against them.

Really? Is that why they teach you to do it in negotiations seminars?
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