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re: How is Panama messing with US shipping?
Posted on 1/21/25 at 6:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 1/21/25 at 6:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
Ok. Keep enjoying the future demise of our nation.
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Posted on 1/21/25 at 6:57 am to HagaDaga
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Keep enjoying the future demise of our nation.
Youre quite the drama queen.
Panama owning the Panama canal isnt going to cause the demise of our nation, slick.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:01 am to RogerTheShrubber
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6 months ago you folks wanted all foreign wars ended and troops brought home.
Now youre war mongering with the best of them.
Some of you people are legit dolts with your assumptions. I've never been anti foreign war when it's needed guy. I hate how we waste time by being polite about winning and how we don't get paid back. Our nations power has been built in using strength when needed. It's in our nature to fight.
Our "leadership" have allowed China to infiltrate negatively without firing a shot, so now we may end up fighting them. I've always hated how Obama/Biden/Kerry have not enforced the Monroe doctrine. Here we are now, so we'll have to figure out what to do.
Don't worry up there you'll never have to worry about, other than making comments on a board about how we shouldn't do anything about losing the nation.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Panama owning the Panama canal isnt going to cause the demise of our nation, slick.
Bring called a drama queen by a coward hiding up in Alaska doesn't faze me.
No one cares about them owning it, but them letting China control it. Keep hidden up there while you post.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:07 am to HagaDaga
Dumbass. The Chinese do not control any aspect of transit for the canal. They do not engage in any maintenance they do not collect fees and they do not determine ingress and egress to the canal. They have what amounts to docking facilities at the coast. We do the same....at the same locations
This is contrived bullshite
This is contrived bullshite
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:09 am to HagaDaga
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Our "leadership" have allowed China to infiltrate negatively without firing a shot,
China isnt controlling the Panama canal, nor is it collecting our fees.
Youre getting terrible information.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:10 am to KiwiHead
Chinese companies are at each end of the canal. Originally were companies from Hong Kong, but now Chinese. Chinese companies are controlled by their govt.
Keep falling for the "Chinese are the good guys" foolishness.
Keep falling for the "Chinese are the good guys" foolishness.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:11 am to HagaDaga
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by a coward hiding up in Alaska doesn't faze me.
this trope is one of the funniest you dipshits throw out there. A guy moves to an uber conservative state, MAGA melts down.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Panama's transit fees escalated through the roof over the past ten years. Recently, fees have reached into the millions. About 3/4ths of canal traffic are US ships.
Trump doesnt want the Panama Canal, he's just throwing red meat
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:13 am to AuburnTigers
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Seems to be an ongoing theme around here
Yeah, attacking allies that are not zealous enough. It’s perennial in populist revolts that they start consuming their own. See the French Revolution, or its daughter, the Russian Revolution. In each case after miraculously gaining power the great revolutionary forces that were required kept churning and redirected toward its former allies - Robespierre and Trotsky, for examples.
ETA: To illuminate the forces at work today, across the Western world, Simon Schama’s Citizens is a great read about the French Revolution.
This post was edited on 1/21/25 at 7:16 am
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:14 am to NC_Tigah
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Panama's transit fees escalated through the roof over the past ten years.
So has everything else, due to inflation and covid retardation.
So youre answer is to socialize it?
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:So Rubio lied to Congress in his testimony?
Youre getting terrible information.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:15 am to NC_Tigah
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So Rubio lied to Congress in his testimony?
Probably misled. I dont know if you watch many of those congressional hearings, but they are simply dog and pony shows.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:17 am to KiwiHead
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This is contrived bullshite
Been a lot of it lately.
Just in the past couple of months, the MAGAphiles have declared war on Greenland, Canada, Mexico and now Panama.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:17 am to toratiger
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what are they doing
Refusing to let you suck off the garbage scow captains.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:18 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Rote response. Let's explore it. How would "inflation" drive canal transit costs? How did covid retardation drive transit in 2023-2024?
due to inflation and covid retardation
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So youre answer is to socialize it?
What are you talking about, Rog?
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:20 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Did you watch this one, or are you just winging it, and shooting from the hip?
I dont know if you watch many of those congressional hearings, but they are simply dog and pony shows.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:20 am to RogerTheShrubber
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So youre answer is to socialize it?
Are you under the impression that the Panama Canal is privately owned? Confiscating it would transfer ownership from one country to another. The threat of confiscation might force less monopolistic behavior. Neither of these are socializing.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:23 am to BlackPawnMartyr
Simplest/easiest way to block it, IF they wanted to, is to scuttle ships in the locks. It would take weeks or months to clear the locks. If China is deciding which ships go through when they could arrange for several of their ships (they have many commercial ships) to be in the locks at the same time and then scuttle them all.
I'm not saying thats what they are going to do but the ChiComm military would be remiss to not have a plan to do that in the event of a war
I'm not saying thats what they are going to do but the ChiComm military would be remiss to not have a plan to do that in the event of a war
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:24 am to Penrod
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Are you under the impression that the Panama Canal is privately owned?
No.
Our govt taking it over to produce lower fees for merchants is socializing costs.
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