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re: How do so many Americans have a fundamental misunderstanding of the 2nd amendment?

Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by Boulderaggie
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:44 pm to
If anything, the 2nd Amendment is ALL about military grade weapons. The whole point of it is to keep the government in line.
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:46 pm to
Well they never explicitly ruled out any of those things so yea....? This discussion is about small arms. Keep it on topic
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112670 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:46 pm to

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Yeah, because the government is gonna come and kills us all witht their guns.


Nothing lasts forever, with a useful idiot populace and the right people in place, tyranny is possible. Our founding fathers saw this correctly.
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Like they could not take everything over by simply shutting off the electricity, internet/phones and sewage for three days and poisoning the water supply. Just three days is all it would take. A few million (like three million or so) dead and resitance would end.

Stop it with your guns is gunna proctect us nonsense. Tney won't protect you when you have no water amd medicine and 911 does not work.


Just like the resistance in Vietnam and Afghanistan was crushed so quickly? You're also conceding that your first point is possible with your weak hypo.

This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15047 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:47 pm to
You just need to win NY, LA, Chicago, and Washington DC for everything to come to a grinding halt.

So, okay, you will have some roughnecks doing crap in Montana. They will be done away with in 24 hours.
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:48 pm to
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Yeah, because the government is gonna come and kills us all witht their guns

It has happened many, many, many, MANY times in history, dumbass. Refer to my last paragraph. You’re the one living in a fantasyland if you don’t think it’s possible
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112670 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:48 pm to
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You just need to win NY, LA, Chicago, and Washington DC for everything to come to a grinding halt.

So, okay, you will have some roughnecks doing crap in Montana. They will be done away with in 24 hours.


Are you going to fight in Montana?

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43338 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:48 pm to
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You just need to win NY, LA, Chicago, and Washington DC for everything to come to a grinding halt.



Just

Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:50 pm to
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The entire purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to allow the citizens of the United States to compete with a government equipped fighting force, and we need AR-15’s to do that.
the right: local police need to be militarized so they can fight highly armed gangs and stuff

also the right: we need things like AR-15s because the police are so militarized these days

you fricking idiots have gotten us into a cold war with ourselves.

Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:50 pm to
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The entire purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to allow the citizens of the United States to compete with a government equipped fighting force, and we need AR-15’s to do that.


I wonder...what sort of tyrannical government was hiding out at Parkland High School?

Just more blood on gun lovers hands.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12948 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:50 pm to
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Your AR-15 will be like a pea-shooter. 


Wait...I thought the AR was a weapon of war? So now it's not?
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15047 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:51 pm to
I'm American history, dumbass?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422585 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:52 pm to
for OP

Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:53 pm to
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the right: local police need to be militarized so they can fight highly armed gangs and stuff 



This is actually a very unpopular opinion on this board. Many here want to de-militarize the police.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43338 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:53 pm to
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Just more blood on gun lovers hands.


oh frick of you overly emotional jackass
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:53 pm to
Do you own a gun for protection, Rob? Or do you just beat intruders over the head with your wife's big black dildo?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422585 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:54 pm to
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Yeah, because the government is gonna come and kills us all witht their guns.

Some of you live in John Wayne dreamland.Yeah, they are gonna come like guerillas (Vietnam war style) and kill people house to house. Better have those guns ready boys!

Like they could not take everything over by simply shutting off the electricity, internet/phones and sewage for three days and poisoning the water supply. Just three days is all it would take. A few million (like three million or so) dead and resitance would end.

Stop it with your guns is gunna proctect us nonsense. Tney won't protect you when you have no water amd medicine and 911 does not work.


Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112670 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:54 pm to
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If we give into fear, we will lose more of the freedoms that we seek to protect, and create more of the enemies we seek to defeat." --Andrew Kent


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asurob1


Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:55 pm to
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asurob1
And yet you still are a staunch supporter of abortion on demand.
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11093 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:55 pm to
I’m don’t think people are misunderstanding the intent of the amendment so much as they just want it amended further or outright abolished.
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
4556 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:55 pm to
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see the “the founders NEVER would’ve expected fully automatic 5.56 assault clips that can shoot 20 rounds per clip second” argument so much from liberals, and it’s so irrelevant.

Is it irrelevant, or you just don't have a cogent counter argument? I love how the term liberal is used when you don't agree with someone. Just like the other side uses 'conservative nut job' when they have a disagreement. LOL

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The entire purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to allow the citizens of the United States to compete with a government equipped fighting force, and we need AR-15’s to do that.

With that rationale you better arm yourself with M2's, MK19's, 81MM mortars, TOWs, etc....so when 3d BN 8th Marines rolls into your town, to quell your uprising you 'might' stand a chance....cmon.
Just the facts, the 2d Amendment was enacted in 1791.
We were a fledging nation. We did not have a large, professionally trained/paid military or police force. The citizenry were for the large part our militia and your rifle put food on the table. We didn't have a grocery store in every town. Today we do.

With that said, should we repeal the 2d amendment, absolutely NOT. Should we amend it, like we do with other laws to reflect current times/events....yes. Keep your pistols, hunting rifles/shotguns (I'll keep mine too), but join the military or police force if you want access to military style weapons with high capacity magazines.
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