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re: How do so many Americans have a fundamental misunderstanding of the 2nd amendment?

Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:55 pm to
Holy shite you are clueless the fully equipped and powered US Army can’t win in the Middle East and couldn’t win in Nam. A heavily armed civilian population in asymmetrical warfare is incredibly dangerous to anyone. If anything ever happened here, the military would be severely weakened for a lot of different reasons and anything short of turning the country to glass would lead to an incredibly hard fight against the US populace. Look at Baghdad if you want to see what happens to a major population center when it’s invaded and robbed of all its resources. Still pretty damn dangerous after 15 years.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:56 pm to
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The government would crush them in one day!




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War in Afghanistan: 2001-present
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:56 pm to
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the right: local police need to be militarized so they can fight highly armed gangs and stuff

also the right: we need things like AR-15s because the police are so militarized these days

you fricking idiots have gotten us into a cold war with ourselves.

you're comparing about ultra conservative, right wingers with the libertarian faction, bruv
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 1:57 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:57 pm to
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I wonder...what sort of tyrannical government was hiding out at Parkland High School?

Just more blood on gun lovers hands.

wow that's possibly the most retarded post i've seen on here in months
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:58 pm to
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With that rationale you better arm yourself with M2's, MK19's, 81MM mortars, TOWs, etc....so when 3d BN 8th Marines rolls into your town, to quell your uprising you 'might' stand a chance....cmon.


There are quite a few people in Afghanistan, Iraq, and even some ole baws left in Vietnam who are laughing at you right now.

Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112613 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:58 pm to
100% chance his signature is a dig at Trump's immigration policies.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:58 pm to
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I'm American history, dumbass?


what are your thoughts on the 15+ year old American invasion of Afghanistan...since you're the historian
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:58 pm to
In human history, dumbass. Aren’t we all one human race according to your delusional ilk? Are American humans somehow above all of the other collapsed societies in history?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:59 pm to
Nothing like gun control to make progs go full fricking retard.

Their dumb arse obsession with this is a big reason why people hold their nose and vote for the lesser evil every 4 years.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:59 pm to
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Holy shite you are clueless the fully equipped and powered US Army can’t win in the Middle East and couldn’t win in Nam.


These idiots are probably the same ones who have been saying "lolz our military sucks they got beat by a bunch of goat herders living in caves lolololol!!!111"

Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112613 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 2:01 pm to
You don't even need "John Wayne fantasies" to see the problem hundreds of millions of guns, millions of military veterans and trained law enforcement would pose a fractured military(majority of enlisted are from midwest and south).
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 2:04 pm to
Yep, liberals prefer us to fight with one or both of our hands tied behind our back.

They are always the first to shite in the nest and complain of its smell.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 2:05 pm to
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Their dumb arse obsession with this is a big reason why people hold their nose and vote for the lesser evil every 4 years.

it's a huge signal that they will never stop
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15046 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 2:07 pm to
To compare our situation in Iraq with the situation in USA is completely inane.

In Baghdad it was like, what neighborhood are we in, what street is this, where are the street signes, oh, wait, is that some dude willing to blow himself up, oh no, it isn't where, what is that screeching from that house, let's go look, hey lady stop crying, no bombs here okay, what is going on, etc etc etc etc. And we didn't have nearly enough guys there, everyone recognizes that now.

In Janesville America it would be more like - Hey, are the Smith Family on Route 21 nuts or or not? Nuts? Okay, got it. (Speaks into walkie talkie for backup). And done.

Again, cut off the electricity and water and in three days everyone will come out waving white flags. We are not a badass warrior nation anymore.
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
4550 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 2:07 pm to
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There are quite a few people in Afghanistan, Iraq, and even some ole baws left in Vietnam who are laughing at you right now.

Nobody was laughing at the Marines I deployed with in Al Anbar, or those who have deployed to Helmand. They wanted no part of us. Question the strategy from the top-levels, but don't question those at the point of the spear.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 2:09 pm to
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Here's my obligatory "Iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam say hello" response to this same stupid fricking argument.



So now you're talking about a civil war where one side is a bunch of rag-tag guerrilla fighters. Would that include using terrorism as a weapon too? Rambo was a movie you know. Not a real person.
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 2:12 pm to
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Again, cut off the electricity and water and in three days everyone will come out waving white flags. We are not a badass warrior nation anymore.

A natural effect of unbridled American liberalism.
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 2:13 pm to
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Is it irrelevant, or you just don't have a cogent counter argument? I love how the term liberal is used when you don't agree with someone. Just like the other side uses 'conservative nut job' when they have a disagreement. LOL

I typed out a 4 paragraph, very clear counter argument. I’m sorry if you were too stupid or lazy to read and understand it before responding with a bunch of dumb shite. And good luck getting your brains scattered around if anything bad ever happens to our organized society while you’re sitting in the corner with your hunting shotgun when 4 guys kick your door in and turn their 300 blackout SBRs on you. So again, a major part of the purpose of the 2nd amendment is to prevent that exact situation. Deny it all you want, but maybe you should join the military if you want to see how quickly human beings can revert back to their nature and turn absolutely evil and how fragile society is if you don’t want to take anyone’s word for it?
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15046 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 2:15 pm to
I would like to see how many US citizens would make blow up devices to kill US servicemen and police and state troopers.

I would like to see how many set booby traps that blow up schools. And then there are SECOND booby traps to kill firemen, ambulance people (fitenn minutes later after the first boom boom).

That is what they did in Iraq. You think this is what people will do in the United States? Really?

Somehow I doubt it.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112613 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 2:16 pm to
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In Janesville America it would be more like - Hey, are the Smith Family on Route 21 nuts or or not? Nuts? Okay, got it. (Speaks into walkie talkie for backup). And done.

Again, cut off the electricity and water and in three days everyone will come out waving white flags. We are not a badass warrior nation anymore.


So, it's possible that the government will come at citizens with guns? Which is it?
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