re: How do liberals want Trump to react to the lies by the MSM?

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Obama absolutely went after Fox, but let's not be disingenuous and pretend that it was anywhere near the same level as Trump's "war"

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It's a little different though, right? Obama only had one real major opponent in the press. Trump only has one real major ally. It's just a numbers game.

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Every day, we hear libs complaining about Trump "attacking the media" on Twitter.

"He's a thin-skinned petty man-child. He's not presidential. Blah blah blah."

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one problem is that he often refers to basic facts as lies.

Beyond that, the consistency and tone of his attacks really are petty, but also damaging to a free and critical press.

Actually, it would be better if he demonstrated a little dignity and restraint.
Ronald Reagan comes to mind. Unfortunately, Reagan could very well be considered a "cuck" by some of you.

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People have a short attention span. They will more likely hear about the false accusation and believe it than the rebuttal. It's like making a statement in court that the judge orders the jury to ignore. They can't un-hear what they've heard. Likewise, if Trump asks them to prove it, they won't. What the people will see is the accusation and then the next accusation levied the next week. They won't see the response. Most people don't watch all 24 hours of a 24 hour news cycle.

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Trump's rebuttals cause more people to tune into the news. Most people aren't heavily invested in the trivial, day-to-day aspects of politics. Trump's tweets bring more attention to the criticism's against him. If he simply ignored the tweets, the media would no longer be able to attack his character in the same way. I gurantee his approval rating would rise if the economy remains stable and he shuts up, regardless of what CNN and MSNBC report. Keep in mind Fox News is the most watched network and half (or more) of the negative press about Trump from the MSM has little to do with major political decisions. Far more Americans support Trump's policies than his persona. It's why people are afraid to admit they voted for the guy. It has nothing to do with Gorsuch, taxes, or healthcare.

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It's a little different though, right? Obama only had one real major opponent in the press. Trump only has one real major ally. It's just a numbers game.

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Trump isn't just attacking the MSM. He's attacking the FBI, other countries, American citizens, his own cabinet, his appointees, and the MSM on a consistent basis without regard for human dignity. It's entirely different. It's on a completely different and unprecedented level.

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By demonstrating your own complete inconsistency in the span of two pages?

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Explain to me how I'm inconsistent?

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honest question

do you believe the MSM goes after Trump as hard as they do if he didn't react the way he does?

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I think it's a chicken/egg scenario. They both fight it out to react to each other, but I think it's sad that "journalists" go after anyone rather than reporting facts and letting the public decide. I think much of his support comes from his battles with the media. They pretty much spent 8 years printing what the administration gave them to print and many on the right were tired of watching the R's cower to every hit piece printed about them.

Like I asked, surely you recognize that Obama had far more allies in the major news outlets than Trump has, right?

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Like I asked, surely you recognize that Obama had far more allies in the major news outlets than Trump has, right?

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of course

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They both fight it out to react to each other, but I think it's sad that "journalists" go after anyone rather than reporting facts and letting the public decide.

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the MSM is about entertainment and money, y'all need to not forget that

there is just too much information out there these days for us all to view, and the MSM has to compete, so they have sold their souls to clickbait headlines and easily digested stories

Well, going back to your original premise, it appears as though Trump is going after the media so much more than Obama did because he is. Obama had no reason to go to war with them because they were on his side (sans one major news outlet who he went after constantly).

If Obama was presented with the overt hostility of the majority of the press that Trump has to deal with, I assure you the reaction would be exactly the same.

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If Obama was presented with the overt hostility of the majority of the press that Trump has to deal with, I assure you the reaction would be exactly the same.

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Eh. I wouldn't be so sure.

But if you are correct, I wonder what position Trump supporters would take?