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re: How do liberals want Trump to react to the lies by the MSM?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:00 pm to MSMHater
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:00 pm to MSMHater
quote:I think it's fair to say they are on the extreme end of being biased against Trump to the point where at least some news outlets are getting into the unethical territory, but calling it "lies" is pretty dishonest, especially when every ounce of negative press receives the "fake news" label. I'm all for condemning bad reporting, which is why I don't support the MSM. However, attaching the "fake news" to all inconvenient news/reporting doesn't help Trump IMHO.
But calling the MSM's stories unbiased instead of untrue seems a bit naive, IMO.
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:02 pm to bhtigerfan
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How do liberals want Trump to react to the lies by the MSM?
The same way that Bush did, by just sitting back and taking it. Acting as if their fake news is real.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:06 pm to PointsInCase
quote:oh I agree, just probably have a different view of what he's reaping and what he's sowing
Trump reaps what he sows.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:16 pm to DelU249
quote:Sarah Huckabee Sanders called out the media in her press briefing for intentionally reporting falicious information. When pressed for an example, she cited Brian Ross's reporting, which was subsequently corrected and lead to him being removed from covering the White House and being suspended. How is the average American supposed to react to Sanders's accusation if she cannot cite a better example? I'm not sticking up for the media, but how is Sanders helping Trump by saying making an accusation she cannot back up? It just sounds like complaining.
oh I agree, just probably have a different view of what he's reaping and what he's sowing
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:24 pm to PointsInCase
quote:good, that's exactly what they did
arah Huckabee Sanders called out the media in her press briefing for intentionally reporting falicious information.
quote:no it wasn't, they issued a clarification to their breaking news story after the part that made it breaking news turned out to be false...it took them like 8 hours. that's a retraction, not a clarification.
When pressed for an example, she cited Brian Ross's reporting, which was subsequently corrected
quote:a month off in December...the horror. he should've been fired.
and being suspended.
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How is the average American supposed to react to Sanders's accusation if she cannot cite a better example?
they react with approval because that's a great example and it just happened.
quote:yes you are, at no point in this exhausting bad faith exercise on your part have you made one complaint about them airing and publishing fake news, you've repeatedly mischaracterized and defended the example sanders used...you've complained repeatedly about trump and now sanders for saying that fake news is fake news...you're also mischaracterizing her because she backs it up.
I'm not sticking up for the media
quote:because she's casting doubt on a press that shits out anonymously sourced, negative stories about trump...by pointing to a specific example that you somehow think isn't a specific example
how is Sanders helping Trump by saying making an accusation she cannot back up?
quote:i'll defer to your expertise on that subject
It just sounds like complaining.
BTW, you seem to buy the "mistakes happen" defense of brian ross and other people who publish/air fake news...yet interestingly, those same people never use that, and instead call trump a liar every single time. as do you. you're going to realize probably too late that though you don't like trump, you defend the same people and tactics that unwittingly put him in the white house.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:49 pm to PointsInCase
quote:Then you are blind or just plain ignorant.
And you have yet to prove any actual lies that are damaging to our democracy.
The temper tantrum by the left for the past year, the riots, the violence, the protests, the "not my president " bullshite, the divisiveness in this country is all on the media and their lies about Trump.
Trump was given awards by the NAACP years ago, now he's a racist white supremacist. Trump is pro gay marriage, but the left and media portray him as a gay bashing homophobe who's going to put gays in camps.
The bullshite "Russian collusion and hacking the election" is being pushed by the media to undermine the support for Trump by the public by portraying him as an illegitimate president so he can either be impeached or lose his bid for reelection.
The divisiveness and discord in the country today is a direct result of the media's outright slander and lies about Trump.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:03 pm to PointsInCase
quote:Once, by a leftwing judge who was absolutely wrong to use tweets to rule on an executive order. What kind of fricking hack judge uses a tweet instead of the actual EO to rule on something.
His tweets have already been used against him in court.
quote:You are so full of shite.
Trump brings up Hillary and Obama every chance he gets. He knows they are hated by his base. It's not the other way around.
Hillary is constantly attacking him still, and just last week Obama literally called him Hitler.
Go frick yourself dude, nobody's buying your bullshite.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:05 pm to bhtigerfan
They wish he would roll over and play dead.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:07 pm to PointsInCase
quote:
Sarah Huckabee Sanders called out the media in her press briefing for intentionally reporting falicious information. When pressed for an example, she cited Brian Ross's reporting, which was subsequently corrected and lead to him being removed from covering the White House and being suspended. How is the average American supposed to react to Sanders's accusation if she cannot cite a better example? I'm not sticking up for the media, but how is Sanders helping Trump by saying making an accusation she cannot back up? It just sounds like complaining.
Brian Ross lied on purpose and has a history of lying on purpose to try to slip shite by then falling back to "Oh it was a mistake" when he gets caught.
There is no better example of a malicious liar in the press.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:10 pm to PointsInCase
quote:Then they will totally destroy his reputation in the eyes of the American people because silence is basically an admission of guilt.
if he heeds the warning of his own advisors and stops trying to berate the MSM and other institutions that have treated him unjustly
You are the most naive person on earth if you belive they would stop the lies, deceit, and attacks on him if he stopped tweeting.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:13 pm to Seldom Seen
quote:Exactly.
The same way that Bush did, by just sitting back and taking it. Acting as if their fake news is real.
Being silent is basically an admission of guilt in the eyes of your detractors.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:15 pm to olddawg26
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Would be nice if he called out blatant fake news on both sides. Would help his credibility a lot.
What are you referring to? Fox News? They rarely have to retract anything. Now if you're speaking of Infowars or some bullshite, that's comparing apples and oranges to say a CNN/ABC.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:18 pm to PointsInCase
quote:I've come to this conclusion based on your many posts in this thread.
PointsInCase
Trump = Liar
MSM = Biased
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:26 pm to bhtigerfan
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What should he do when blatant lies are reported about him in the media?
Just because someone says something negative about Donald Trump, that doesn't automatically mean they are lying.
I know this is a really difficult concept for some of you, but I promise it's true.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:28 pm to Seldom Seen
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Acting as if their fake news is real.
Just because someone reports something that causes you emotional distress because it's bad for your political sports team, that doesn't automatically mean it's made up.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:35 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:A lie is a lie dickhead.
Just because someone says something negative about Donald Trump, that doesn't automatically mean they are lying.
I'm sure you're gonna deny that the media is biased against Trump right?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:05 pm to bhtigerfan
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I'm sure you're gonna deny that the media is biased against Trump right?
Putting words in my mouth
Of course a lot of the media is biased against a Trump but:
A. He brings a lot of it on himself, and
B. Some on the right use it as a crutch so they can continue to play the victim and cry media bias even when legitimate points are brought up against your "team"
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:19 pm to More&Les
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They'd prefer the GWB approach, shut up and take it.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:19 pm to olddawg26
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Would be nice if he called out blatant fake news on both sides. Would help his credibility a lot.
Then he’d have to say goodbye to Hannity.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:24 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Just because someone reports something that causes you emotional distress because it's bad for your political sports team, that doesn't automatically mean it's made up.
Of course not. The issue is that when there's blood in the water, the media goes into a frenzy to go on a million different tangents to take said negative story and force it to fit in ever missing piece of every puzzle. They're so overzealous to bury Trump that they use the shotgun effect to the point where people tune it out as white noise.
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