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re: How did the abortion issue flip so much?
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:32 am to Allthatfades
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:32 am to Allthatfades
I think people realized that less shitty people is better overall. So it’s kinda a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts.
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:32 am to offshoretrash
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The black population should be really worried about it though because between abortion and murdering one another they will be over taken by Hispanics. The Democrats have been killing them off for years.
Genuinely the most amazing thing. How do they continue to support a party that literally encourages them to murder each other.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:33 am to Allthatfades
Most people who want an abortion simply don’t want to live with the consequence of their actions. Period.
A very small amount are due to rape & health issues.
A very small amount are due to rape & health issues.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:33 am to offshoretrash
Republicans: why won’t blacks vote GOP?
Also Republicans:
Also Republicans:
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The black population should be really worried about it though because between abortion and murdering one another they will be over taken by Hispanics.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:34 am to Allthatfades
Evangelicals realized they hadn’t screwed anything up recently.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:37 am to Damone
I mean, I’m sure he’s not too far off on his statement.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:38 am to BigNastyTiger417
Each side will frame the argument in a way to suit their position
Support: "GOP wants to force women to carry rape babies and continue pregnancies that threaten the life of the mother!"
Oppose: "People who get abortions are just trying to avoid the consequences of their bad decisions!"
In reality there is no correct position, as there will always be legitimate reasons to terminate a pregnancy, while also moral reasons to keep the procedure from being used as birth control .. However, trying to codify and legislate those reasons will result in total political nonsense.
Support: "GOP wants to force women to carry rape babies and continue pregnancies that threaten the life of the mother!"
Oppose: "People who get abortions are just trying to avoid the consequences of their bad decisions!"
In reality there is no correct position, as there will always be legitimate reasons to terminate a pregnancy, while also moral reasons to keep the procedure from being used as birth control .. However, trying to codify and legislate those reasons will result in total political nonsense.
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 6:41 am
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:38 am to cgrand
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people don’t like being told what they can’t do or can’t decide for themselves. It is the American experience
Some people love to tell others what they can and cannot do. Like getting shots or owning firearms
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:44 am to Allthatfades
As long as being pro life mens we refuse abortions for ectopic pregnancies I’ll be pro choice.
Being pro life can literally kill you nowadays.
Being pro life can literally kill you nowadays.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:44 am to Allthatfades
Have you met progressives? They want to kill unborn children and take the village approach to raising yours.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:45 am to Allthatfades
A lot of medical procedures are considered abortions and when a baby is severely developmentally impaired in the womb due to certain fatal conditions a fetus can develop, removing the fetus is considered an abortion. A woman is then faced with the unbearable decision to:
1. remove the fetus, effectively killing it before it dies on its own
Or
2. Let it die on its own and carry the dead baby around until full term, delivering a dead fetus
Both options are unfathomable but many women choose to rip off the bandaid and opt for option 1. Problem is, that’s now considered an abortion and illegal to do in Louisiana. I’m a Catholic and a conservative but the government telling the woman she HAS to carry a dead baby until delivering it naturally is immoral and wrong.
That’s how the abortion issue flipped so much. There’s very little give to it now when there needs to be simply more choice but not necessarily complete choice to kill a healthy baby.
1. remove the fetus, effectively killing it before it dies on its own
Or
2. Let it die on its own and carry the dead baby around until full term, delivering a dead fetus
Both options are unfathomable but many women choose to rip off the bandaid and opt for option 1. Problem is, that’s now considered an abortion and illegal to do in Louisiana. I’m a Catholic and a conservative but the government telling the woman she HAS to carry a dead baby until delivering it naturally is immoral and wrong.
That’s how the abortion issue flipped so much. There’s very little give to it now when there needs to be simply more choice but not necessarily complete choice to kill a healthy baby.
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 6:47 am
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:45 am to Allthatfades
We’re a country of awful and vapid human beings
On this issue, women don’t want human life to stand in the way of that entry level marketing career in the city that will totally fulfill them
On this issue, women don’t want human life to stand in the way of that entry level marketing career in the city that will totally fulfill them
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:46 am to Havoc
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I think people realized that less shitty people is better overal
Exactly .
Have yall tried driving on a freaking interstate lately, at pretty much any time of day ? Or going to pretty much any beach on any weekend ?? There are entirely too many people, when our population goes down, our quality of life will go up.. Way up .
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:47 am to tiggerthetooth
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Celebrities and pop culture. Americans are desperately obsessed with trends and what's "cool".
They will always sacrifice any long term outlook for the next trendy/cool thing.
You can make genocide look cool.
Abortion has been made to look cool? To who? I know several women who either had and abortion or considered it. From what I have heard them say about it there is nothing cool about it...very hard decision to make and even harder to live with if it is made. I am sure there are some abortions performed every year where the woman is completely nonchalant about it but I would bet those are the exception and not the rule...I would bet most women beat themselves up pretty badly about making that decision. At the end of the day it is an individuals choice and the state should be discouraged, as much as possible, from interfering with individual choice. Very few people like the thought of abortion but forcing the issue is less popular....
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:48 am to cgrand
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people don’t like being told what they can’t do or can’t decide for themselves. It is the American experience
The baby agrees
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:49 am to Pettifogger
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On this issue, women don’t want human life to stand in the way of that entry level marketing career in the city that will totally fulfill them
damn
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:49 am to tiggerthetooth
and others don’t want religious tax-exempt entities making political statements, yet here we are
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:51 am to Allthatfades
They wanna frick with zero negative repercussions.
Selfishness is very prevalent among many women.
Selfishness is very prevalent among many women.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:55 am to Allthatfades
People are so desensitized they think that abortion is not taking a life and actually celebrate it
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:56 am to jmcwhrter
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Support: "GOP wants to force women to carry rape babies and continue pregnancies that threaten the life of the mother!"
Which is just about the stupidest argument they could make. And it’s not what they actually mean.
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Oppose: "People who get abortions are just trying to avoid the consequences of their bad decisions!"
This is what the supporters actually mean.
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