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re: How can the average person afford to live?
Posted on 9/3/23 at 8:33 am to Stonehog
Posted on 9/3/23 at 8:33 am to Stonehog
quote:It's a drag for anyone who opted to rent a place so they could buy fancy coffee, eat at fancy restaurants, and jet around in a fancy ride.
Why do you think it’s a bad thing that a $200k house in 2019 is $300k a few years later?
Posted on 9/3/23 at 8:36 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
My kid asked me the other day,
Pops, when did you stop living pay check to pay check?
My retort,
Lil red, I'm still working at 60.
Pops, when did you stop living pay check to pay check?
My retort,
Lil red, I'm still working at 60.
Posted on 9/3/23 at 8:38 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
It's a drag for anyone who opted to rent a place so they could buy fancy coffee
The self-parody is off the charts in this thread.
Posted on 9/3/23 at 8:42 am to SDVTiger
quote:
Im asking why it would be a bad thing for you to profit 100k
Because we need a place to live and everything in our price range in 2019 would be out of our price range in 2023. That 100k wouldn’t last long after a down payment and then financing the rest at 7%. Our mortgage payment would double. So that would be a really stupid thing to do.
Posted on 9/3/23 at 8:43 am to Stonehog
quote:You'd rue the day you had to compete with most of the folks you're bad-mouthing here. They'd eat your lunch and have you paying them for the privilege.
Some of y’all are lucky to be born when you were because you could never make it today.
Posted on 9/3/23 at 8:46 am to Stonehog
quote:Indeed.
The self-parody is off the charts in this thread.
What were you doing when you were 20?
Posted on 9/3/23 at 8:49 am to Stonehog
quote:Perhaps you misunderstood the question.quote:Because we need a place to live and everything in our price range in 2019 would be out of our price range in 2023. That 100k wouldn’t last long after a down payment and then financing the rest at 7%.
Im asking why it would be a bad thing for you to profit 100k
Posted on 9/3/23 at 8:50 am to Stonehog
300k is out of your price range?
How poor are you
Not surprising stonehog is a libtard
How poor are you
quote:
Perhaps you misunderstood the question.
Not surprising stonehog is a libtard
This post was edited on 9/3/23 at 8:51 am
Posted on 9/3/23 at 8:56 am to SDVTiger
quote:
300k is out of your price range?
How poor are you
This is how you know you’ve lost the argument.
Posted on 9/3/23 at 8:56 am to SDVTiger
quote:IDK if he's lib or con. I do know he has a hell of a lot to learn about money management.
Not surprising stonehog is a libtard
Posted on 9/3/23 at 8:57 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Just because these are average expenses, it doesn’t mean it’s what you should be paying.
For example, your average car payment is $733 a month. However, you can buy a new car at 25k financed it for 60 months and have a note less than $400 a month.
For example, your average car payment is $733 a month. However, you can buy a new car at 25k financed it for 60 months and have a note less than $400 a month.
Posted on 9/3/23 at 9:06 am to Stonehog
quote:
But y’all keep pretending that this is normal and you had it harder.
I’m not a boomer and haven’t said a single thing about how hard I’ve had it, mensa. I’m correctly pointing out that your simple graph doesn’t tell the entire story. If you’re incapable of nuance I’ll help you out; that doesn’t mean I’m saying there’s nothing to it at all.
Posted on 9/3/23 at 9:08 am to Richleau
quote:
Found the boomer. How much was a house then you old piece of shite?
Boomer here. Bought first house for $87,000.00 in 1987 and it was an f-ing stretch. Real estate in my lifetime has ALWAYS been a stretch. And the only time it has been affordable is when finding jobs was a stretch.
Work your arse off and spend less than you earn and you will do fine in the long term. If you don't want to do that then you better count on being lucky!
Posted on 9/3/23 at 9:46 am to tiggerthetooth
quote:
Boomers have a really hard time understanding they grew up in a time of unique circumstances that allowed for major economic growth (post WW2 peace)
Ask yourself WHY there was such a boom..
Coming off defeating a Communist threat to our freedom and REAL DEPRESSION, Americans APPRECIATED the blessings this country has to offer & created a positive productive society that didn't expect anything from anybody.
One real advantage Boomers did have though (early boomers at least) was that taxes and government were less intrusive enough that a family could survive on one income.
That being said, the biggest difference in life overall was patience and expectations.
My parents did without and SAVED for things they wanted/needed. A house was 1200-1500 sf with a 8-14% mortgage and didn't have all of the luxuries we take for granted today.
Go price building a 1200 sf house with basic appliances and Formica finishes before you complain about not being able to afford your quartzite countertops, walk in closets, 2 car garages for your 2 luxury cars, spa tubs, rain showerheads, and smart features.
Today's generation would be horrified to have to live in such an "embarrassing" house or drive the beaters we drove to save up enough to buy that "embarrassing" little house.
I'm not saying it's easy today for kids coming up; it's very hard.
But to blame Boomers for your inability to enjoy the luxuries they created is disingenuous and lacks context.
Regardless of who created the problems, the solution is certainly NOT more government, hating the principles that founded this country, printing more money, and adopting a Bernie Sanders type philosophy on the country's direction.
Blame all you want since that makes you feel better (being a victim validation), but until the generation in power (whoever that is), does something about the monster that was created in DC, we're screwed.
Posted on 9/3/23 at 9:51 am to PsychTiger
You got lucky to find an affordable house in Charleston. shite got expensive.
Posted on 9/3/23 at 9:52 am to Stonehog
quote:
This is how you know you’ve lost the argument.
I havent lost anything
You clearly dont understand money or home equity
I assume you are a 20% down type of tard so if you bought a 200k home and sold it for 300k you got back 140k
You could put 20% down on 300k and have 80k liquid
Your new payment would be 1500 vs 800
Until rates drop and then the payment would be 1200
So a 1200 payment and 80k in the bank isnt something you can handle?
How broke are you?
Posted on 9/3/23 at 10:22 am to offshoretrash
Same. I was doing fine until my mortgage increased $400 this year bc of insurance and the inflation of all utilities and groceries, and everything else. Now I find myself wondering how the average person is making it. I do add to my 401k, although I had to reduce it a little. Some days I just want to toss it all and give up. Other days, I’ll be d*mned if I will let them succeed. I will make it.
Posted on 9/3/23 at 11:08 am to PsychTiger
quote:quote:Hell no!
North Charleston?
Posted on 9/3/23 at 11:16 am to 10thyrsr
quote:Immigrants come here poor-as you note. Few stay poor. Their children typically do as well or better than native born americans. Odd isn’t it?
What do you mean by "successful"?
Their standard of living was improved by coming here, but that doesn't make them successful.
I’d consider anyone that improves their lifestyle and hands their children a ton of opportunity— successful. What would you call it?
This post was edited on 9/3/23 at 11:17 am
Posted on 9/3/23 at 11:18 am to NC_Tigah
quote:Right. The same people b*tvhing thst house prices are appreciating, while sitting ont he sidelines are just watching an opportunity pass by. Not only can you buy an appreciation g asset, you can do it with other people’s money. Try that in the stock market.
So by your account, a 30y/o Millennial could have purchased a $200K home, and 4-yrs later, could now be sitting on a $100K profit.
Yet, that historically rare opportunity is somehow terrible?
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