re: How can a Catholic or a Jew be a Democrat?

Catholic you have a point but most Jews don’t actually practice Judaism

As a Jew, I spend a lot of time in republican circles. I don’t have to be there long before I hear something negative about Jews. It’s extra bad now, but even 15 years ago, I still was hearing anti-Jew crap constantly from my republican friends.

The reality is most Jews in America are cosmopolitan, highly educated, white collar professionals working in government, finance, medicine, education, or entertainment living in a handful of big progressive cities. They value social safety nets, public transit, and fear being a tiny minority ganged up on by a larger majority. Their interests tend to line up much more with the democratic party.

American Jews don’t care about Israel, but they do care about anti-Semetism here. Many are finally seeing the light lately with how the Democrats have aligned behind radical Islam, but for every crazy Hamas bro on the left, there’s 5 anti-semetic groypers on the right.

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It has to be more than what he said though.

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In the US not really. Here it’s more the kind of people that identify as Catholic but really don’t practice. So yeah maybe not “cultural”. More like in name only Catholics. Maybe they’ll send their kids to Catholic schools but not even that for the vast majority

In certain European countries the term might fit better. For example Italy is around 80% Catholic. However, something like 17% attend mass. The rest either don’t practice or do things like send their kids for Catholic schooling and go to church only for things like 1st holy communion and confirmation. Or maybe they’ll take part in some local Saint’s feast celebration. But otherwise they don’t go to church or really even pray

I think a lot of Catholics (especially in Europe) fall into that “cultural Catholic” category now

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I think the R view leans more towards self-reliance and capitalism lifting societies out of poverty, while the Catholic view is more about giving to the poor, which the Ds do to a fault, imo.

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Republicans believe in giving to the poor through church.


Not through your paycheck like democrats. In fact democrats prefer it’s your money and not theirs.

About 50 years ago the movement called Liberation Theology started in the Catholic Church. It was based on the morality of helping the poor. Priests take a vow of poverty. Catholics have always been 'pro charity' but this movement was more interested in striving for 'equality.' The democrats are more pro-welfare and campaigning against 'the rich' than republicans. Younger priests have rejected Liberation Theology because they realize that Marxists tend to get rid of churches.

“Anti-sematic”

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How can a Catholic or a Jew be a Democrat?

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For everything in life including religions there are two sides of the same coin.

One is the bringing of the sword.

The other side is compassion.

Both sides of the coin are necessary.

Unfortunately, people by nature are two-sided and will become attached to one side forsaking the other.

Eventually by taking one side over the other, one takes it too far. One side may get into forced conversions and one day killing others who do not agree -- and then the other side into legitimizing "compassionate" killing (euthanasia, abortion, etc.) and of course forced "conversions".

The key is to embrace both sides as they are both necessary but not the extremes. Live and let live. Apply discipline to yourselves but apply mercy to others.

Jesus did this.

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As a Jew, I spend a lot of time in republican circles. I don’t have to be there long before I hear something negative about Jews. It’s extra bad now, but even 15 years ago, I still was hearing anti-Jew crap constantly from my republican friends.

The reality is most Jews in America are cosmopolitan, highly educated, white collar professionals working in government, finance, medicine, education, or entertainment living in a handful of big progressive cities. They value social safety nets, public transit, and fear being a tiny minority ganged up on by a larger majority. Their interests tend to line up much more with the democratic party.

American Jews don’t care about Israel, but they do care about anti-Semetism here. Many are finally seeing the light lately with how the Democrats have aligned behind radical Islam, but for every crazy Hamas bro on the left, there’s 5 anti-semetic groypers on the right.

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I believe this is mostly true.

All the more reason it's baffling to us that movements that everyone knew would become (or were already) virulently anti-semitic were led/funded by Jewish people/orgs in many cases and that the same movements have pushed essentially open borders policies that include MENA. This I all collective speak so obviously you may or may not have any interest/support for such things.

I think American Jews are in a difficult moment, obviously. Policies broadly supported by Jews have fostered a radicalism on the left (and one that promoted the third world over European immigration or no immigration), and we see those results everywhere - which is understandably concerning. And you have the upsurge in negativity about Jewish American from the right, who (I think understandably to some extent) feel like Jewish Americans waged war on their interests for the last few decades, but now want help on the Frankenstein they helped create.

I highly doubt you're accurate on the groyper/hamas bro thing, though. There are way, way more people on college campuses who would sympathize or spout a radical anti-semitic message from the left than the right, IMO. Now, I think it might be a fair guess that while the radicalism is more widespread on the left, the more passive, grudge attitude towards American Jews from the right would exceed the leftist counterpart.

I’ll bite: Christians who are Democrats, especially in the South, justify it by saying no politician is perfect or emphasizing their personal relationship with God and that he loves them.