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re: Hey Democrats, if Kilmar Garcia isn’t MS-13, why does he have MS-13 tattooed on his hand?

Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:25 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466637 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:25 am to
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So they're here, and now they have to go through a costly and lengthy process to be removed. You'd think some of these "really guys, I'm on your team" dudes would spend some of their energy game planning how they can remedy


I told y'all this years ago.

Many more admin law judges need to be hired to process them.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86075 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:26 am to
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When you're authorizing the government to act illegally, why would this matter?


I totally remember you being terrified that the US government was going to start drone striking us domestically because we did it to a wedding party in Afghanistan
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86075 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:26 am to
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Many more admin law judges need to be hired to process them.


Sorry we have to spend that money black bagging a job to bring a citizen of El Salvador back to the states
Posted by DocYatesVA
Yukon, OK
Member since Oct 2022
290 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:27 am to
"If the removal is illegal then why would this distinction matter?"

This argument from the left is becoming increasingly absurd. Everybody that crosses the border and asks for asylum always says "if I return to my country I will be killed by the rival gangs". It's almost like they have been coached to say it. Some deserve asylum and compassion, especially those who come here with an intention to better themselves, support the country and observe the law. Others, like this clown had no intention of fitting into society, as obvious by his numerous run-ins with the law, beating his wife, and engaging in what is believed to be human trafficking. There was no mistake made in his exportation. I believe that previous statement has been rectified by those in charge. From the evidence provided he should have never been given a hold on his deportation, but the fact is that many of these had it because they were presented to some bleeding heart leftist judge, who probably was getting handouts under the table. It is disgusting how people that practice the law can come in here and defend this type of stuff and still claim to know what is best for America.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74346 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:27 am to
Ordered by what law?
He was deported from this country that said he was here illegally and a gang member to his country that agrees he is illegally here and a gang member.
What US law says this is not proper action?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86211 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:29 am to
He can't sate the law because it doesn't exist.




Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35050 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:30 am to
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It doesn't work that way. They have to have the order rescinded legally, which requires his return for that litigation/due process. Or they can return him and deport him legally elsewhere. That's fine, too. Very simple solutions to this frickup. The question is why the admin won't take the easy steps in fixing it.


Spoken like a dyed in the wool bureaucrat who worships “systems” and not outcomes or efficiency. At the end of the day you really don’t care about justice, you just want to see Trump forced to bow in fealty to your administrative overlord.
Posted by DocYatesVA
Yukon, OK
Member since Oct 2022
290 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:31 am to
"It was legal

I was openly opposed"


Pot meet kettle. What was done here was legal and is being opposed. Not gonna stop it, just like the past four years of our anguish did not stop the previous clown administration from opening the doors and bringing in folks. The door swings both ways.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78151 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:31 am to
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The argument isn't as much as a supremacy argument, which is what your AI response was focusing on, as much as a 10th Amendment argument about compelling states to act.
OK, understood on detainers. What about making laws that contradict federal laws?
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27851 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:31 am to
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Every rival gang member is afraid the rival gang is going to kill them.


But he claims he is not in a gang but a rival gang wants to kill him.


Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34118 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:32 am to
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No. I am not


Yes you are. While crying that this opens up the possibility for the United States to deport citizens to a foreign country, you are asking a foreign country to deport its citizen to the United States.

Literally asking one country to do that which you are fear-porning COULD happen in the United States one day.



quote:

No. I'm saying the admin is ordered to figure it out


"Facilitate"


Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8871 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:32 am to
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But you, sfp and ivory bill dont care about laws.


Your mindless braying that I "don't care about laws" is annoying. Does Clarence Thomas not "care about laws" because he held that Abrego Garcia was illegally deported to El Salvador?
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
3269 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:33 am to
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It's an administrative matter and I don't see how the MS13 gang member's presence is required.


It's not. Administrative hearings happen every day without the subject being present. Liberals and SFP are just dumb like that.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74346 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:34 am to
Then how can flying them back be illegal?
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16313 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:35 am to
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They remove you to El Salvador. Then claim they can't return you because you're under El Salvadorian jurisdiction. What can you do?


Absolutely hilarious. Go ahead and retreat.

The scenarios are not similar. non sequitur.

Again. He is a citizen of El Salvador. Your example is for a U.S. Citizen.
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
1991 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:36 am to
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If the admin wants to have the prior order rescinded, just bring him back and have the hearing and then deport him. Case closed.


There is no future where this wife-beating, gang member thug is ever in the United States again.

El Salvador is a sovereign nation and therefore has sovereignty over their own citizens.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16313 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:37 am to
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Many more admin law judges need to be hired to process them.


False. That issue has been fixed. Remain in Mexico.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162878 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:38 am to
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
2096 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:47 am to
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His membership in MS13 is not relevant to the legal discussion If the admin wants to have the prior order rescinded, just bring him back and have the hearing and then deport him. Case closed.


You are a consistent shill for a legal system which has become highly politicized and corrupt.

You already know this “due process” would play out in a jurisdiction that will rule against right-leaning objectives by default, which is exactly why you want it to happen.

You are exactly why people don’t trust the system.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34118 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:54 am to
Why are we granting asylum to illegals from our allied countries?

El Salvador is our ally. Are we saying it's not safe for their citizens to live there?

Seems illogical.
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