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Here is how the air traffic controller qualifications changed, you be the judge
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:21 am
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:21 am
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In 2014, however, the FAA upended this system. The AT-SAT was sidelined, and a biographical questionnaire replaced it. The goal was explicit: to increase demographic representation at the expense of skill. Over 3,000 highly qualified CTI graduates, many of whom had already demonstrated superior aptitude, were summarily dismissed in favor of candidates who better aligned with racial and gender quotas. It was an affront to meritocracy, and in a job where a momentary lapse could mean catastrophe, the implications were dire.
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:25 am to trinidadtiger
I've been convinced for some time now that DEI has had absolutely nothing to do with "lifting up the marginalized".
To me - it's about destroying the institutions by forcing incompetents to lead them into the ground. How can the elites "remake" society with the public will still attached to the institutions of today? No better way to destroy them than to let clowns destroy it and then call anyone who notices the blatant effort to destroy "racist" or "misogynistic". The perfect cover to meet the modern standard of pop culture inspired public conscience.
This seems especially true when you observe the blatant disregard for competence in favor of LGBTQ/race/gender in professions/positions dealing with life or death situations.
To me - it's about destroying the institutions by forcing incompetents to lead them into the ground. How can the elites "remake" society with the public will still attached to the institutions of today? No better way to destroy them than to let clowns destroy it and then call anyone who notices the blatant effort to destroy "racist" or "misogynistic". The perfect cover to meet the modern standard of pop culture inspired public conscience.
This seems especially true when you observe the blatant disregard for competence in favor of LGBTQ/race/gender in professions/positions dealing with life or death situations.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 8:21 am
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:26 am to tiggerthetooth
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had absolutely nothing to do with "lifting up the marginalized".
Hell no, it was creating space for the absolutely unqualified amongst us...
This was all part of their plan to destroy this country from within...
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:27 am to tiggerthetooth
There is no merit in these demographic novelties (ETA: I don't mean the people with the novelties have no merit - the novelties are not indicators of merit - in any way). None. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Once they are brought up, merit is out the window.
Making a personnel selection, outside of a very, very, very narrow band of unique situations*, based on demographic novelties is de facto incompetence/malfeasance.
#Provemewrong
*The classic examples are public outreach/PR position focused a specific group or hiring an actor to play a particular role that calls for it - and even then, you want the best you can get that also fills the demographic bill
Making a personnel selection, outside of a very, very, very narrow band of unique situations*, based on demographic novelties is de facto incompetence/malfeasance.
#Provemewrong
*The classic examples are public outreach/PR position focused a specific group or hiring an actor to play a particular role that calls for it - and even then, you want the best you can get that also fills the demographic bill
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 7:31 am
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:28 am to trinidadtiger
ATC did nothing wrong
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:28 am to trinidadtiger
None of this stuff matters to the masses. The truth is that most people against MAGA are deranged and are going to attack that man no matter what happens.
The people for MAGA are also deranged and are going to defend him no matter what.
This society is a joke and we should be ashamed that it even came to this. People are being murdered, ODing, offing themselves, stealing, robbing, cheating, lying, and all the above all around the country every day and all we do is sit around and try to blame eachother for everything instead of looking in the mirror.
This country is fricked.
The people for MAGA are also deranged and are going to defend him no matter what.
This society is a joke and we should be ashamed that it even came to this. People are being murdered, ODing, offing themselves, stealing, robbing, cheating, lying, and all the above all around the country every day and all we do is sit around and try to blame eachother for everything instead of looking in the mirror.
This country is fricked.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:30 am to trinidadtiger
Guessing the timing of this is to insinuate cause of the collision in DC.
Reality is that was 100% on the Blackhawk pilot.
If you want to show cause - tell us about the last time there was a collision in the US.
Reality is that was 100% on the Blackhawk pilot.
If you want to show cause - tell us about the last time there was a collision in the US.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:34 am to MintBerry Crunch
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ATC did nothing wrong
That may well be the case here, but the information about reducing standards should be very concerning, or am I missing something?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:36 am to trinidadtiger
ATC has been hiring unqualified people for 10 years yet flight safety increased in the same time period, while flight traffic volume has increased?
I cant find the see the logic to blame DEIs for every accident.
I cant find the see the logic to blame DEIs for every accident.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 7:37 am
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:38 am to trinidadtiger
post the source.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:39 am to Clockwatcher68
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am I missing something?
It will all become clear when you read the pilot's tranifesto.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:40 am to trinidadtiger
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In 2014, however, the FAA upended this system.
So whatever OP is describing was the policy throughout the first Trump administration? When was the air traffic controller in this case hired? Unless it was before 2014, …
And BTW, the military helicopter flew into the plane. The copter pilot said the plane was in sight, but still flew into the plane. It doesn’t appear that ATC gave incorrect instructions from what I’ve read.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:41 am to RelicBatches86
Woke hiring lasted my entire 33 year ATC career.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:43 am to tiggerthetooth
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I've been convinced for some time now that DEI has had absolutely nothing to do with "lifting up the marginalized". To me - it's about destroying the institutions by forcing incompetents to lead them into the ground. How can the elites "remake" society without the public will still attached to the institutions of today? Nothing better to destroy it than to let clowns destroy it and then call anyone who notices the blatant effort to destroy "racist" or "misogynistic". The perfect cover This seems especially true when you observe the blatant disregard for competence in favor of LGBTQ/race/gender in professions/positions dealing with life or death situations.
You are not alone. I am right there with you 100% on this. I’ve been thinking this for a long time and there’s no sane reason to believe anything else.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:45 am to wallowinit
Its direct cut and paste from the plot of atlas shrugged
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:47 am to trinidadtiger
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Former air traffic controller Michael Pearson said on “The Ingraham Angle” that the short staffing was “attributable to the Obama administration.”
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“The system has been under attack due to DEI and the FAA bowing to wokeness since 2010, since the Obama administration,” Pearson said. “The lack of staffing is directly attributable to the Obama administration terminating the lists of eligible, well-trained air traffic control statements in 36 universities across the country in 2013 because they were too white.”
https://dailycaller.com/2025/01/30/michael-pearson-obama-admin-short-staffing/
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:48 am to MintBerry Crunch
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ATC did nothing wrong
Did ATC have control over when the helicopter lifted off, or just help it around the plane traffic? If the helicopter waited 30 seconds to lift off, this probably doesn't happen. All of that goes out the window if it was an intentional act.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:48 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
An F.A.A. report raised questions about staffing at the air traffic control tower.
Staffing at the air traffic control tower was “not normal for the time of day and volume of traffic,” said a preliminary F.A.A. safety report, which was reviewed by The New York Times.
A controller was performing jobs typically assigned to two controllers: handling helicopters in the airport’s vicinity and also instructing planes that were landing and departing from runways.
NYT
Staffing at the air traffic control tower was “not normal for the time of day and volume of traffic,” said a preliminary F.A.A. safety report, which was reviewed by The New York Times.
A controller was performing jobs typically assigned to two controllers: handling helicopters in the airport’s vicinity and also instructing planes that were landing and departing from runways.
NYT
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:53 am to wallowinit
Take MAGA and DEI out of it
In any agency, especially those with a core mission that includes saving lives or avoiding disaster, any “mission” beyond that primary one must be purged.
For example - If there are stronger, more capable men at USSS than a woman on a specific detail (one which doesn’t REQUIRE a female) - what on earth are we doing here? You can say that and simultaneously believe/acknowledge that there are many brave and honorable women at USSS. But representation or rewarding their hard work isn’t the core mission of USSS.
It is bizarre we’re at a place where this is controversial
In any agency, especially those with a core mission that includes saving lives or avoiding disaster, any “mission” beyond that primary one must be purged.
For example - If there are stronger, more capable men at USSS than a woman on a specific detail (one which doesn’t REQUIRE a female) - what on earth are we doing here? You can say that and simultaneously believe/acknowledge that there are many brave and honorable women at USSS. But representation or rewarding their hard work isn’t the core mission of USSS.
It is bizarre we’re at a place where this is controversial
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:55 am to Auburn1968
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Former air traffic controller Michael Pearson said on “The Ingraham Angle” that the short staffing was “attributable to the Obama administration.”
I love how people totally skip over the first four years Trump was in charge and act like he couldn't have fixed this supposed issue
....guess it's still convenient to blame the black guy
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