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re: Hegseth FIRED Lt. Gen. Brett Sylvia after he FAILED 3 polygraphs about leaking classified

Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
57991 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:09 pm to
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Here’s why failing a polygraph 3 times doesn’t necessarily mean he lied



I just explained why it doesn't necessarily mean someone lied. Because they don't accurately determine whether or not someone is telling the truth or not.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
7226 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:11 pm to
Regardless, something happened and it wasn’t random. Polygraph is just one part of the investigation
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
6275 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:13 pm to
He's lucky all he got was fired.

Most of history something like that got you shot.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
19356 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:14 pm to
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This isn’t true. Background investigations are every 5 years for TS but polygraphs aren’t a part of that. Now JCS perhaps but it’s not automatic it’s random and not every year.
No where did I say it is every year.

It is every 5 years with a little bit of wiggle room because of scheduling.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
17002 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:14 pm to
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They are like 50% accurate at best.


Why lie to make a point.

Polygraph tests are not fully reliable, with accuracy estimates ranging from about 70% to 89%, but they can produce high rates of false positives and are not considered definitive evidence of deception.

To fail 3 in different moments and environment would be also a lot more reliable than 1.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
13280 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:20 pm to
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When is his Admiral's mast?

soon...
quote:

An admiral's mast is a rare, high-level non-judicial punishment (NJP) proceeding in the U.S. Navy and Coast Guard presided over by a flag officer (an admiral).
Posted by Tiger Pants 318
Member since Jan 2022
122 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:36 pm to
One would think that if someone was suspected of leaking classified information, you would be questioned and/or placed on leave pending an investigation. If he CHOSE to submit to a polygraph as a part of that investigation as a condition of his continuing to serve, then he must have thought he had nothing to worry about it. Regardless, the way this is being rolled out doesn't make a lot of sense procedurally.
Posted by goatmilker
With Chinese expect nationalism
Member since Feb 2009
78625 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:36 pm to
Pentagon expert. Glad you chimed in.
Posted by Tiger Pants 318
Member since Jan 2022
122 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:38 pm to
This doesn't have anything to do with the building where he worked. It has to do with due process. Do you feel that the story as its being presented makes sense?
Posted by goatmilker
With Chinese expect nationalism
Member since Feb 2009
78625 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:40 pm to
It has EVERYTHING to do with that building. Non like it on planet earth. Best know about it.
Posted by Tiger Pants 318
Member since Jan 2022
122 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:43 pm to
I completely understand your point. Well said.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
29171 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 5:03 pm to
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One would think that if someone was suspected of leaking classified information, you would be questioned and/or placed on leave pending an investigation.


Depends on what you mean by "suspected". The only one I ever took was a shotgun approach; they came to the building and everybody who was read in took a polygraph. I never heard if they found the leak or not, but they didn't find it in our group.
Posted by Jauquismos
Member since Jul 2023
2201 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 5:10 pm to
Is that general LBGTQ?
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
40761 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 5:13 pm to
"She's got problems, she's got real problems"

- OMB
When asked about the firing of Silva



This post was edited on 10/29/26 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Tiger Pants 318
Member since Jan 2022
122 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 5:21 pm to
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quote:
One would think that if someone was suspected of leaking classified information, you would be questioned and/or placed on leave pending an investigation.


Depends on what you mean by "suspected". The only one I ever took was a shotgun approach; they came to the building and everybody who was read in took a polygraph. I never heard if they found the leak or not, but they didn't find it in our group.


I see your point, and its a good one. I guess that since he wasn't detained and was instead given the opportunity to even take a poly (something that he cannot be forced to do, and sure theres consequences for refusing) then that tells me they "suspected" him of leaking information to reporters.

It's also interesting that Sean Parnell is backing off of some of the terminology that the E Ring crowd was circulating earlier in the day.

I'm not defending leakers. Can't stand them. Especially leaks from Congress. I'm just a little skeptical to take anything at face value these days. Especially in advance of the J-5 being called to testify before HASC and SASC on all things Iran.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
57991 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 7:47 pm to
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Polygraph tests are not fully reliable, with accuracy estimates ranging from about 70% to 89%, but they can produce high rates of false positives and are not considered definitive evidence of deception.


Industry advocates claim that those are the numbers, but pretty much everyone else agrees that they are much lower.


quote:

Why lie to make a point.


I'm not lying anymore than you are. There just isnt a real scientific way to calculate how accurate they are, but common sense makes me believe that their accuracy is much lower than the people who sell them and use them claim.
Posted by CupidStunts
Member since Aug 2026
70 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 7:57 pm to
Look at all of that fruit salad on his blouse. He must have fought in every batlle the U.S. Army has fought since San Juan Hill in 1898. He would make a North Korean general green with envy wearing all of those ribbons.

And the rest of that junk he's wearing makes him look like a Shriner without his fez.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
7226 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:00 pm to
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Look at all of that fruit salad on his blouse. He must have fought in every batlle the U.S. Army has fought since San Juan Hill in 1898.


His campaign ribbons are OIF/OEF/OIR
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
14164 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:13 pm to


I saw a story from some outlet presenting this as "Oh no, Trump continues to gut the military!"

forgot where it came from, it was some shitty outlet in my MSN feed
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
26371 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:15 pm to
He admitted to leaking
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Army Lt. Gen. Brett Sylvia, a former senior Pentagon strategist, admitted to leaking classified information about U.S. policies toward Iran and Ukraine to two reporters, Axios reported Thursday. An internal Pentagon investigation is said to have found that Sylvia admitted to the leaks on video after failing four polygraph tests. War Secretary Pete Hegseth later fired the three-star general. Sylvia, who served in the Joint Chiefs of Staff's Directorate for Strategy, Plans and Policy, made “unauthorized disclosures to the media,” investigators concluded. The leaks began as early as June 2025 and involved encrypted Signal messages and a meeting with a reporter at an Arlington, Virginia, diner, according to Axios. Investigators said Sylvia also used handwritten notes from a classified document to disclose details of U.S. military aid to Ukraine.


Treason.
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