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re: Health care is not a “right”
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:21 pm to Wolf Messing
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:21 pm to Wolf Messing
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Do you know why the right gets a bad rep? Because they are all narrow minded that it's like trying to reason with a caveman, you're just not evolved enough to be able to put yourself in someone else's position. Right Winger - "grunt" I have Job. I have health care. "Grunt" everbody just like me, so you get job. you get health care. you get no job you get no healthcare. "grunt" Hey numbnuts, not everybody is of able body to work a 40 hr job that provides benefits.
This is what you did in the gun thread:
Grunt...me live in suburb/city
Grunt...me have grocery store, money and cops near by
Grunt me no need to hunt or have protection
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:26 pm to Desert King
They know it’s not a right but framing it that way makes an easier sell for medicare for all. It will also be a magnet for more illegal migration and an eventual larger voter base, thereby allowing socialists to take over the country and never relinquish power
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:26 pm to Wolf Messing
Your post is a non-sequitur.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:27 pm to Wolf Messing
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Hey numbnuts, not everybody is of able body to work a 40 hr job that provides benefits.
How disabled are you?
Does your diagnosis include any connective tissues diseases?
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:30 pm to Dawgfanman
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This is what you did in the gun thread:
Grunt...me live in suburb/city
Grunt...me have grocery store, money and cops near by
Grunt me no need to hunt or have protection
How many times have I been in a situation that I needed a gun for self protection = 0, make better decisions and you will never need this. I am sure you can spout off 25+ times you or your family were attacked by meth head zombie gang members that if not for your trustee Smith and Wesson the whole family would had perished.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:33 pm to Wolf Messing
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? Because they are all narrow minded that it's like trying to reason with a caveman, you're just not evolved enough to be able to put yourself in someone else's position.
You're such an elitist cuck
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Hey numbnuts, not everybody is of able body to work a 40 hr job that provides benefits.
Hmmm I forgot we just leave those people on the street to die
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:33 pm to Dawgfanman
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not everybody is of able body to work a 40 hr job that provides benefits.
You cut off their handouts and I bet you will find a whole host of those that are "not of able body" today can and will actually work for a living and their benefits...
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:33 pm to Wolf Messing
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How many times have I been in a situation that I needed a gun for self protection = 0,
That’s the same number of times I’ve needed access to healthcare and couldn’t get it..
Wasn’t your entire grunt rant based on understanding not everyone is like you?
I make great decisions..I’m set to retire, have a great family, and little fear of anyone or anything. You are the one begging daddy govt to take away the bad pow sticks and give you free gyno exams
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:33 pm to the808bass
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How disabled are you?
I am not disabled at all, but unlike you I have the ability to be concerned for less fortunate people, that maybe can't work a full time job due to health issues or other circumstance that prevents it. We should not just let these people suffer because they were dealt a bad hand
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:34 pm to Wolf Messing
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I am not disabled at all, but unlike you I have the ability to be concerned for less fortunate people, that maybe can't work a full time job due to health issues or other circumstance that prevents it. We should not just let these people suffer because they were dealt a bad hand
They shoulda made better decisions...
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:34 pm to Wolf Messing
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Hey numbnuts, not everybody is of able body to work a 40 hr job that provides benefits.
well now you have exposed yourself as REX's alter.
dumbass
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Wolf Messing
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:35 pm to Wolf Messing
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or other circumstance that prevents it
LMAO and there goes the goalpost shift, again...
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suffer because they were dealt a bad hand
suffering builds character...
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:35 pm to Wolf Messing
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I am not disabled at all,
BS. rex was disabled and so are you alter.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:44 pm to Zach
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If you make health care free and the govt pays $5 a night for your hospital room, those business men are gonna close down the hospital and start another business.
This is a true statement; however, as we have seen with Medicaid & the VA; the government doesn't negotiate the bills. They may argue codes and what should be charged, but once that is resolved they pay the bill as it is. Private Insurance companies have negotiated contract rates; therefore, they pay less.
Once healthcare becomes "free" to the public. Hospitals & clinics will charge whatever they want and the cost of healthcare will drastically increase. The individual consumer won't care because they won't see the money come out of their pocket. But our deficit will continue to grow, then the Dems will just raise taxes again.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:50 pm to Wolf Messing
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I have the ability to be concerned for less fortunate people, that maybe can't work a full time job due to health issues or other circumstance that prevents it. We should not just let these people suffer because they were dealt a bad hand
This program already exists and has been in place for decades.
I had a coworker that was about to have a kid. He had medical coverage through work, but with the deductible was still looking at $7,500. So he decided to drop his insurance through work, and his wife registered for Medicare/Medicaid so they could get the pregnancy covered for free. He was in his mid 20s and this was around 2001 or 2002. They qualified because of their limited income; even though, both were able bodied people that had full time jobs.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:55 pm to Desert King
Pose it another way....is your life more important than someone else’s life because you have more money than them?
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:55 pm to Wolf Messing
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I am not disabled at all, but unlike you I have the ability to be concerned for less fortunate people, that maybe can't work a full time job due to health issues or other circumstance that prevents it. We should not just let these people suffer because they were dealt a bad hand
You can be concerned about the less fortunate and agree that a society as abundant as ours should set up a system in which everyone has access to basic healthcare and still not agree that healthcare is a "right".
The two ideas are not mutually exclusive, yet you seem unable to comprehend that.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:57 pm to Desert King
It is for asylum seekers
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:58 pm to Desert King
quote:So you don't accept healthcare benefits from your employer obviously...
Get a job and pay for your health care like the rest of us.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:59 pm to Wolf Messing
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Because they are all narrow minded
You don’t even see what you did there! Beautiful. 
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