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re: Health care is not a “right”

Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by Wolf Messing
Gore-Kalevariya
Member since Feb 2018
621 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

THIS is why you're a failure and always will be.


Funny,I didn't know that you knew me in real life to make that assumption. It's also fact that at least 1 of the 4 of you that are arguing this with me are living paycheck to paycheck if not all 4 of you. And don't start feeding us with a bunch of BS of how successful and rich you are. I don't care to hear it.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5998 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:19 pm to
The Parable of The Talents
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5998 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:20 pm to
I don't need to know you to spot you as a loser. And yes, I do live paycheck to paycheck. I budget every dollar. I save. I invest. I own property. Anything else you wanna know, teat sucker?
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:21 pm to
Taxpayer-funded Healthcare is a right.

Taxpayer-funded Abortion is a right.

Taxpayer-funded Housing is a right.

Taxpayer-funded Genital Mutilation Surgery is a right.

Working? It's totally optional.
Posted by Wolf Messing
Gore-Kalevariya
Member since Feb 2018
621 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

And yes, I do live paycheck to paycheck


Others on here would say it's because of your bad decisions, I wouldn't say that.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5998 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:26 pm to
So what is the point of the 78% statistic? Are you suggesting that I am somehow responsible for addressing it? Or perhaps your suggestion is that we have a collective responsibility to address it? OK . . . I'll bite. What's your answer? How do WE make sure that our neighbors escape this awful plight?
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20704 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:26 pm to
As of right now 9 fools have down voted OP.

That means 9 damn fools knows absolutely NOTHING about the Constitution.

Hey libtards, is it really that hard to comprehend the world around you?
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5998 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:26 pm to
You completely failed to understand my post.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:29 pm to
I refuse to believe that person is real
Posted by Wolf Messing
Gore-Kalevariya
Member since Feb 2018
621 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:31 pm to
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So what is the point of the 78% statistic? Are you suggesting that I am somehow responsible for addressing it? Or perhaps your suggestion is that we have a collective responsibility to address it? OK . . . I'll bite. What's your answer? How do WE make sure that our neighbors escape this awful plight?


I think that is our problem is that there is no clear answer on how to fix it. But it starts with healthcare, one reason people get into a never ending cycle of debt, also is brought on by student debt. There has to be someway to provide a relief in both healthcare and student debt just for starters.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

There has to be someway to provide a relief in both healthcare and student debt just for starters.


It's called personal responsibility.
Posted by nugget
Abrego Garcia Fan
Member since Dec 2009
15731 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:32 pm to
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It's also fact that at least 1 of the 4 of you that are arguing this with me are living paycheck to paycheck if not all 4 of you.


You should have paid attention in statistics class instead of crying victim on here.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:32 pm to
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also is brought on by student debt




Not at all my problem. I didn't ask for help paying mine back and I certainly don't see where it's my "responsibility" to help someone else pay theirs back.
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:32 pm to
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There has to be someway to provide a relief in both healthcare and student debt just for starters.



Cot damn.
Posted by nugget
Abrego Garcia Fan
Member since Dec 2009
15731 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:35 pm to
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There has to be someway to provide a relief in both healthcare and student debt just for starters.


If you don't have kids out of wedlock and finish high school, you're nearly guaranteed to not live in poverty. You can then get a job and pay off your student loans. You do realize student loan debt is outrageous because it's government subsidized, right?
Posted by mattgr1983
Austin, Tx
Member since Oct 2012
2434 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:37 pm to
I don't give a frick about your semantics. We should make sure nobody goes without healthcare, period.
Posted by mattgr1983
Austin, Tx
Member since Oct 2012
2434 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:39 pm to
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Correct. Rights are god given and would exist in a vacuum. Finite things by definition cannot be a right.



Any human rights are actually self created as a species. We can decide as a community what we consider rights based on our moral fabric.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128758 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:39 pm to
So no infection should go untreated.
Right down to a hangnail.

Cough drops should be covered. Right?

Over the counter meds?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:42 pm to
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We should make sure nobody goes without healthcare, period.


We do. Present yourself to an ER. They legally can't turn you away.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74123 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:44 pm to
That is absolutely not what a right is, in the western political sense

Rights exist in the state of nature before a government is erected. They are things you are allowed to do or conditions you deserve simply for being a human being. Men set up governments to protect those rights.

Here is the great French philosopher espousing the point

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