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re: Has The Covid Vaccine Hurt The Vaccine Industry As A Whole?

Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:49 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123972 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:49 pm to
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the medical industry was "different" - was virtuous and uncorrupted in ways (or degrees) other industries were not. He no longer sees his industry that way.
I'm sorry to hear that. FWIW, nonbureaucratic medicine is the same virtuous and uncorrupted industry it always was, and I don't chose those words lightly.

I see attitudes like your brother's more as an outside issue. The problem is, medicine is complicated. The lay public (unlike your brother) does not generally have the background and/or ability to fully understand healthcare recommendations. So they are left to either trust their doc, or not. They have seen enough crap from the likes of Fauci, Birx, or Catherine O'Neal to warrant severe skepticism.

Inside, docs remain focused on quality of care and patients' best interest. That has not changed an iota. We see it in each other. JFWIW.

But patient trust in quality medical advice has been undercut.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 5:51 pm
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
3941 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:50 pm to
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Most of the doctors I've met and all of the nurses I know are decent people, just trying to make a living and help people.


For the most part. However, pharmacists on the other hand are the most corrupt pieces of crap.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17864 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:56 pm to
Covid exposed the CDC and the state department of health as just another bloated government bureaucracy no different than the DMV or the IRS.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5035 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:02 pm to
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Has the Covid vaccine hurt the vaccine industry as a whole


You referring to the Covid shots?
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11816 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:09 pm to
I didn’t get flu vaccine this year for that reason
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16476 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:11 pm to
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You referring to the Covid shots?


Thank you, there has never been a vaccine for a coronavirus in humans and to think that one was created out of nothing in 6 months is insane.

For reference, the polio vaccine took 30+ years to develop.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
5415 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:20 pm to
I’m proudly unjabbed, However, before I never thought much about vaccines except some grade school friends had scars on their arms. We just always assumed they were safe and necessary because, after all, the government, news and medical community told us so. And most of those we got as kids were (presumably) safe.

But something in the very beginning of the plandemic made my spidey senses perk up. I couldn’t put my finger on it. Something wasn’t right about this dystopian nightmare I saw evolving before my eyes. I remember the first time I went to Walmart and everybody was masked and being herded through one door a few people at a time. I felt like I was in an apocalypse or zombie movie set. Of course we know now that I and millions of others were right in our mistrust of what we were told.

All that to say, I will never again trust government medical agencies or most of the medical community on vaccines or anything “new” or “mandatory” without extreme vetting and years of proof. I’m not anti-medicine. I’m anti-medical tyranny and being lied to.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15705 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:29 pm to
I skipped the flu shot this year because I was concerned that I might be given the Covid booster by mistake. I have avoided the covid vaccine so far and did not want to take any chances
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
1413 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:36 pm to
I wish I could remove the cht they gave us in boot camp 42 years ago. I'll never get another for anything.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17921 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:19 pm to
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FWIW, nonbureaucratic medicine is the same virtuous and uncorrupted industry it always was, and I don't chose those words lightly.

So no significant portion of doctors or hospitals consider their economic outcomes in advising, treating or medicating?
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
15824 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:23 pm to
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It's also badly damaged US medicine reputationally.

It has destroyed the credibility and reputation of the medical profession in the U.S. Everyone loses in this scenario.
Posted by SoFlaGuy
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Apr 2020
838 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:23 pm to
Does a bear shite in the woods?
Posted by reddy tiger
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2012
1560 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:37 pm to
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Has The Covid Vaccine Hurt The Vaccine Industry As A Whole?


Only if you’re an utter moron who has trouble recognizing truth and dives headfirst into bullshite. Since science and public health experts tend to skew left, right wing media and influencers have bamboozled you idiots for political gain. It’s a bad long term strategy. Conservatives died at much higher rates after the vaccine was introduced. And as childhood diseases creep back into America, it’s innocent children of conservative retards that’ll be disproportionately affected.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5627 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:55 pm to
not enough
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7310 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:33 pm to
At this point, I wouldn't trust anyone to inject ANY vaccine into my body. How does one KNOW that they're not saying it's a flu shot when they load you up with a COVID19 MRNA injection?

I trust myself and my immediate family (and a very few others who are very close friends). I trust absolutely NO ONE else when it comes to vaccines. No family or very close friends are GP physicians so... No vaccines for this redneck.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:36 pm to
I won't get the flu shot again because of what happened with covid.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5035 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:40 pm to
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Only if you’re an utter moron who has trouble recognizing truth and dives headfirst into bullshite. Since science and public health experts tend to skew left, right wing media and influencers have bamboozled you idiots for political gain. It’s a bad long term strategy. Conservatives died at much higher rates after the vaccine was introduced. And as childhood diseases creep back into America, it’s innocent children of conservative retards that’ll be disproportionately affected.


Mother of God. Unbelievable
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
10342 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:54 pm to
I can't trust anyone of the pharmaceutical companies at all when it comes to vaccines. They singlehandedly threw established protocols out the window and needlessly endangered peoples lives all in the name of money.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30805 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:58 pm to
Ask crazy4LSU

This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 8:59 pm
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3037 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:09 pm to
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Thank you, there has never been a vaccine for a coronavirus in humans and to think that one was created out of nothing in 6 months is insane.


Moderna developed their version in less than 48 hours after receiving the computer generated sequence from China.


For reference, the polio vaccine took 30+ years to develop. [/quote]

And suffered via "The Cutter Incident".


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