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re: Gun Control Discussion
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:17 pm to upgrayedd
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:17 pm to upgrayedd
Let's not forget it's the fault of the 3% of gun owners who own 50% of the guns.
It ISN'T the fault of 3% of the population who commit over 40% of violent crime
It ISN'T the fault of 3% of the population who commit over 40% of violent crime
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:19 pm to beerJeep
It's also the fault of schools for parents not taking an interest in their child's education.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:21 pm to beerJeep
I only skimmed the last several pages. Did BamaAtl try to bring up vehicle registration again?
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:22 pm to upgrayedd
quote:
Just like all of their causes, they love the idea that it makes them feel morally superior to others because they "support life" yet conveniently ignore, and actually embrace and support, things like transgederism that end in a 40% suicide rate. If gun ownership resulted in those numbers, they'd be losing their fricking minds.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:24 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
No. He did try to tie access to guns to a high suicide rate and completely whiffed. And then he refused to say why he was for/against common sense mental health and background checks on alcohol purchases, since alcohol is directly related to more crime than guns are. As well as more deaths.
Typical bamaATL moves were performed. No one is surprised.
Typical bamaATL moves were performed. No one is surprised.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
The fact that they fervently encourage people to engage in behavior that results in a 40% rate of death, then turn around and claim to be for saving lives is absolutely astounding.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:28 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I only skimmed the last several pages. Did BamaAtl try to bring up vehicle registration again?
He said people that support the 2A claim to be for life but are full of shite because they don't care that people kill themselves with guns. I told him a friend of my killed himself by crashing his car into a tree and asked him, by using his logic, if he thinks that means no one should have access to cars. He didn't respond.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:34 pm to BamaAtl
quote:I had to stop. Discussion with this cranial cripple/troll is impossible because he/she/it is completely wrong about sooo much. It's ignorance has no bounds. "because of their success"? What success? Their total numbers are worse than ours.
Because of their success.
Here is just 1 simple example of the ignorance I detected. Gun registration. It has not a clue that all legally bought guns are registered. Give the cops a brand and serial number and they can trace that gun from manufacturer to owner.
and ya gotta love this one
quote:Obviously this person has not a clue as to the writings of the signers stating exactly what they meant.
The 2nd Amendment isn't a suicide pact. Hell, until Heller there was no explicit right to individual ownership. That's barely precedent.
This person says all factors are considered by the left before assigning blame to guns. If so I wonder why they haven't concluded that we could cut out nearly 35%+ of all major crimes if we confiscated guns from roughly 6% of the population?
Dang, I just had some fun punching 9mm holes in some paper. No suicide or murder occurred either. I can't figure out why it didn't since I'm a dangerous NRA Lifetime member.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:35 pm to upgrayedd
these are the same people who encourage social pathologies like single parent households, and then when the progeny of those sub-optimal decisions engage in over-representative pathological behaviors of their own...they blame the groups of people who are NOT engaging in those sub-optimal behaviors for the negative behaviors of that progeny
you cant' win with their "logic"
you cant' win with their "logic"
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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these are the same people who encourage social pathologies like single parent households, and then when the progeny of those sub-optimal decisions engage in over-representative pathological behaviors of their own...they blame the groups of people who are NOT engaging in those sub-optimal behaviors for the negative behaviors of that progeny
I love this adage:
“There was once a wise king who ruled over a vast city. He was feared for his might and loved for his wisdom. Now in the heart of the city, there was a well whose waters were pure and crystalline from which the king and all the inhabitants drank. When all were asleep, an enemy entered the city and poured seven drops of a strange liquid into the well. And he said that henceforth all who drink this water shall become mad.
All the people drank of the water, but not the king. And the people began to say, “The king is mad and has lost his reason. Look how strangely he behaves. We cannot be ruled by a madman, so he must be dethroned.”
The king grew very fearful, for his subjects were preparing to rise against him. So one evening, he ordered a golden goblet to be filled from the well, and he drank deeply. The next day, there was great rejoicing among the people, for their beloved king had finally regained his reason“.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:39 pm to upgrayedd
quote:By that logic Prozac, ropes and bed sheets will have to be banned as well. My grandson has tried all 3 in the last 6 months.
I told him a friend of my killed himself by crashing his car into a tree and asked him, by using his logic,
The Prozac is very low dose and he don't have a clue as to how to tie a knot. The only reasons he hasn't been successful yet.
And yes, bamatool, all of our guns are locked up as well as all knives.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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these are the same people who encourage social pathologies like single parent households, and then when the progeny of those sub-optimal decisions engage in over-representative pathological behaviors of their own...they blame the groups of people who are NOT engaging in those sub-optimal behaviors for the negative behaviors of that progeny
Speaking of which, in your discussions of comparative demographics was it ever mentioned that in pretty much every major city in the US the majority of homicides take place in the poorest areas of those cities?
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:40 pm to upgrayedd
Sounds like the enemy put fluoride in the water
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:43 pm to Bard
we didn't get that far b/c initially Bama refused to even discuss issues smaller than the state level
but, eventually Bama did say that SES played a large role in the difference in violent crimes between cities within the same state
but then wouldn't commit to go further once she realized where she was headed
hell it took a day for her to stop using a straw man argument to agree that urban areas have more violent crime involving guns than rural areas. she tried to avoid this for a long time by conflating gun violence with gun deaths (b/c rural areas have a lot of gun deaths, b/c they have a lot of suicides)
but, eventually Bama did say that SES played a large role in the difference in violent crimes between cities within the same state
but then wouldn't commit to go further once she realized where she was headed
hell it took a day for her to stop using a straw man argument to agree that urban areas have more violent crime involving guns than rural areas. she tried to avoid this for a long time by conflating gun violence with gun deaths (b/c rural areas have a lot of gun deaths, b/c they have a lot of suicides)
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
I wish we could take bamatool on one at a time. He/she/it avoided the hard questions and gave lots of opinion type answers when dealing with multiple people.
I shoulda kept my ... keyboard shut.
I get carried away due to the ignorance these snowflakes spew.
They don't even know what logic is.
I shoulda kept my ... keyboard shut.
I get carried away due to the ignorance these snowflakes spew.
They don't even know what logic is.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:46 pm to Redbone
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I wish we could take bamatool on one at a time.
i've tried. people often won't let me
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
I challenged her to a discussion on your podcast once. I believe she ignored it.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:On their on kind should have an effect but it doesn't. They'd rather worry about cops killing people. Guess which group kills the most black men.
that urban areas have more violent crime involving guns
quote:Sounds like a pretty subjective conclusion.
they have a lot of suicides
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we didn't get that far b/c initially Bama refused to even discuss issues smaller than the state level
That's what happens when someone is trying to prove an answer rather than find one. You have to get pretty granular (at least moreso than just a statewide level) to find the root cause of such an issue.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 4:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Sorry. You were doing a good job IMO.
i've tried. people often won't let me
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