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re: Great news! Azithromycin & Chloroquine: victory lap

Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:41 am to
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26623 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:41 am to
Why?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19478 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:44 am to
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People like you giving false hope, is as bad as the media preaching end of the world.


I could see where someone posting optimism on a Southeastern football based message board would be quite the national problem. Thanks for policing that for us
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:56 am to
It’s being used in hospitals here in Baton Rouge. Early reports are mixed

If patients are very bad off it doesn’t seem as effective as patients that are severe but not life threatening when they start it.

Kind of common sense to me but that’s from ER docs working in BR.
Posted by Fububutsy
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2007
4086 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:58 am to
Dumb count
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4480 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:59 am to
It is funny, and sad at the same time, that these deranged libs are rooting against a cure...no one is suggesting that this has been scientifically vetted. The anecdotal evidence, however, is significantly strong for optimism
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:59 am to
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It’s being used in hospitals here in Baton Rouge. Early reports are mixed

If patients are very bad off it doesn’t seem as effective as patients that are severe but not life threatening when they start it.

Kind of common sense to me but that’s from ER docs working in BR.




This seems in line with the guidance they are putting out to doctors. Patients need to be started on Chloroquine early. If the patient is in later stages of the virus, Remdesevir has shown to have better outcomes.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49881 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:00 am to
If this drug combo knocks the hell out of CV, score 1 for President Trump's common sense and 0 for Dr. Fauci's medical knowledge.


Then again, I don't trust anybody who once sent a love letter to Hildabeast.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:01 am to
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Why are you acting like such a cock?


For one, he isn't acting. Second, his dreams of mass deaths to get rid of Trump is falling apart like Russia, Mueller, and impeachment.


Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177288 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:02 am to
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If patients are very bad off it doesn’t seem as effective as patients that are severe but not life threatening when they start it.

So it basically works like tamiflu does in that you have to start it early

Not really surprising or anything that should be a cause for concern

Gotta get tested and start it early
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 10:46 am
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8165 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:03 am to
My wife has been taking Plaquenil for over a year due to health issues she has. We made sure to get her script refilled last week when the talk around hydroxychloroquine started up.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63001 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:05 am to
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It’s being used in hospitals here in Baton Rouge. Early reports are mixed

If patients are very bad off it doesn’t seem as effective as patients that are severe but not life threatening when they start it.

Kind of common sense to me but that’s from ER docs working in BR.



I've heard a similar, singular, anecdotal situation. Older man, on ventilator for over a week, been on meds for over a week. No improvement, and they are expecting a long term ventilator situation.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63001 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:17 am to
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So it basically works like tamiflu



I think tamiflu is anti-viral.

I've heard that the hydroxychloriquine drug is effective because it somehow suppresses the body's immune response that causes the lungs to fill with fluid (which is what is killing people).

I'm no doctor, so anyone who knows more please correct.
Posted by ErikGordan
Member since Oct 2016
969 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:27 am to
The real question is did this med work in China and other countries? Unless Chinese are biologically different I think we will get the same results. China is our lab.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
16062 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:28 am to
So hcq also has antiviral in vitro effects. It prevents the virus entry into the cells this it can't replicate.

It also has immunomodulatory effects of being an anti inflammatory.

Now some feel that hcq works best after clearly identifying the threat and then going to work. For this reason, hcq prophylaxis may not be beneficial if it inhibits the bodies response more than it inhibits viral replication.

And zithromax also prevents getting infections on top of this, and is also an immunomodulating drug with anti viral effects. Hopes this helps.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63001 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:29 am to
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The real question is did this med work in China and other countries? Unless Chinese are biologically different I think we will get the same results. China is our lab.



Information from China is far from accurate, so whatever benefit we were going to get from it has probably been realized.

We should be getting VERY close to getting results from our own data (even if it's not the double blind studies yet).
Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
12459 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:35 am to
If getting it early is the trick, then testing people becomes more important. Get tested...if you have it, regardless of symptoms, take the drug. Is it preventative as well?
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
11141 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:47 am to
You will not get this treatment if you are not severe so it really doesn’t matter. You can be tested positive and if you are not experiencing severe symptoms you will just be quarantined until you get better or get worse and then need it.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177288 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:48 am to
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I think tamiflu is anti-viral.

Not the point. You have to start it early or the drug can’t really do it’s job.

The fact HQ won’t bring people on the brink of death back isn’t a concern or surprising. But if you get tested and start it immediately it will chop Covid off at the knees.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:50 am to
Take test...45 minutes doc gets results and calls in cocktail.... 6 days later cured.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87331 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:51 am to
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If this drug combo knocks the hell out of CV, score 1 for President Trump's common sense and 0 for Dr. Fauci's medical knowledge.



Is this real life

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