re: Gov Kathy Hochul is begging wealthy people who have moved to come back to NY and pay taxes

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"I need people who are high net worth to support the generous social programs that we want to have in our state.

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Full stop. Right there.

That statement is staggering...

The state of NY spends $240 billion for a population of 20 million
So $12,000 per resident.

NYC spends $141 billion ($20 billion more than the state of Florida, a state with 23 million people) for a population of 8.5 million. So $16,600 per person

So just state and local spending you are looking at $28,600 a head in NYC. Even more when you include federal spending.

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generous social programs that we want to have in our state.

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Notice how loosely she define generous here. It is downright dishonest to claim that a state can be "generous" with any of the finances that it accrues. The state doesn't produce that money, the taxpayer does. Generosity is defined as voluntary in nature while coercion implies at least some degree of force. If the state is taking funds away from others and distributing it to whomever it sees fit under the threat of the violation of breaking tax law, you've defeated the premise of generosity entirely. The entire concept of returning billionaires to New York to increase tax revenue has nothing to do with generosity of the state and everything to do with the systematic redistribution of funds to whom the government sees fit.

This is the statement of someone who honestly believes their money is the state's money.

So, a Democrat.

She acknowledges the problem and says plese come back anyway.

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This is the statement of someone who honestly believes their money is the state's money.

So, a Democrat.

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Yep. The Democrats essentially are an out of control teenager, a teen that produces nothing themeslves, that continues to take their productive dad's credit card to buy things for others and call themselves generous.

Socialism always fails. The failure is fast tracked when you can't keep productive citizens from leaving.

SHE needs them to come back.

Come back and cut HER the checks.

frickin c@nt

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Socialism always fails. The failure is fast tracked when you can't keep productive citizens from leaving.

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I have a fun little question I like to ask people in debates that are defending socialism/communism/marxism. All three systems/ideologies at their core have an fundamental claim that points to a version of altruism that is inherently in people. This altruism is "suppressed" by evil, capitalistic governance and if ever freed from the chains of said governance through an abolition of the state, people would be free to communally share and produce goods together.

My question is always, "why if the state is the supressing mechanism that prevents this inherent altruism from coming to the surface has every socialist/communist government immediately moved to install a government themselves? If socialism and communism really worked, and humans truly were altruistic in nature, why the need to install a government at all?"


Because Socialism and Communism always require force. Always.

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can't believe she said all that out loud

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I love it when reality hits unicorn and fairy dust ideas square in the mouth.

Atlas is shrugging and she doesnt know wtf to do about it.

"Please come back so I can take your money"