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re: GOP lawmakers have quietly advised the White House not to move forward with mass layoffs

Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:15 am to
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
3485 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:15 am to
I don't know anyone outside of immediate family that will care about feds losing their jobs. This is just deep state R's trying to protect the game.

We might as well rename the government to Enron, they don't create anything and are always trying to find a way to insert themselves between producers and consumers to make another buck.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10159 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:16 am to
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Do they? People are idiots and the simpler message wins. The simpler message is that Republicans own all branches.



Republicans have literally voted for (and passed out of the House) the bill that would reopen the government with no democrat support. It's the dems voting no
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10201 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:20 am to
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Republicans have literally voted for (and passed out of the House) the bill that would reopen the government with no democrat support. It's the dems voting no


Im not disagreeing with you. Im saying imagine trying to explain CR's to idiots and showing snippets of a complex worded bill to them vs the easy to digest message "Republicans are in control."
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 9:21 am
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9015 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:23 am to
Try reading the Constitution for a change.

The Senate made a mythical requirement for 60 votes. Because it’s a rule….your statement is worthless.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10159 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:23 am to
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easy to digest message "Republicans are in control."


True, but are they in full control if they need the Dems vote?

The main driver of this shutdown is Schumer is trying to fend off a primary from AOC
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13493 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:25 am to
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It's a wise decision. Furloughed workers are seen by the populace as victims caught in the political power struggle. To fire them during this time would not be popular at all. Currently Trump is winning the PR battle over the shutdown. No need to shoot himself in the foot. Take the win when it comes and then quietly dissolve their positions afterward when all eyes are elsewhere.


The whole point of voting for Trump was that he was willing to do the unpopular, but necessary, things to fix the government. I voted for him to cut government spending, knowing that meant people will lose their jobs, and I assume I'm not alone in that. Also, doubting Trump's ability to spin any story favorable is a terrible thing to do.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10201 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:25 am to
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True, but are they in full control if they need the Dems vote?

The main driver of this shutdown is Schumer is trying to fend off a primary from AOC


Again, not disagreeing with you. But that message isn't making it to normal people who aren't conservatives and following politics closely.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18503 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:25 am to
I called this last week. Bad optics.

You don’t want the spotlight shifted on you when it’s currently on the adversary.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10201 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:26 am to
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Try reading the Constitution for a change.

The Senate made a mythical requirement for 60 votes. Because it’s a rule….your statement is


What does any of that have to do with public perception of who is to blame for the shutdown?
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18006 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:27 am to
Nope
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
2228 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:29 am to
How did Virginia vote in the last election?
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1577 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:29 am to
They have received calls from their donors and family members that are getting rich sucking off the government tit.

Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9927 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:30 am to
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In a state like Virginia, for example, with scores of federal workers, you would be handing next month's Governor's election to the Democrat.


Didn't we just win major elections not too far back without even needing to give a damn about Virginia?

Some of y'all never learn...
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
2381 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:31 am to
Oh look, the Uniparty not looking out for Americans again.
Posted by HEtiger
Member since May 2008
1664 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:43 am to
If the shoe was on the other foot, dems would not think twice about axing conservatives off the dole.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9596 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:44 am to
do it .... just wait until the government is back open and has a budget. Then do it to achieve a smaller Federal government. Return powers to the States.
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
4221 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:45 am to
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The whole point of voting for Trump was that he was willing to do the unpopular, but necessary, things to fix the government.


100% agree, and he has. Shouldn't we agree that it makes no difference whether he accomplishes the tasks by a silent garrote in the middle of the night or a claymore in the public square as long as it's the wisest choice given the environment. I for one am thrilled that he's learned the art of nuance. The 2016 Trump would have went bull in a china shop as he often did. The 2024 Trump is infinitely more effective because he realizes there's more than one way to skin a cat and sometimes it best done while everyone's attention is focused on a sacred cow.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
2228 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 9:48 am to
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do it to achieve a smaller Federal government. Return powers to the States.

This is the way. Have an up vote.
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
4523 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 10:18 am to
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GOP lawmakers


Why would anyone listen to these dopes.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296930 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 10:20 am to
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I'm not sure what the reasoning is


Deep-state, Uni-party


Midterms.

Dems are winning the messaging war here.
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