re: Good read from Vanity Fair on the Hookup Culture and Tinder

A huge benefactor of the feminist movement has been dead beat dad’s. They no longer have to support children and society doesn’t look down upon them like it used too. Keep telling women they don’t need a man in heir life and they will not demand commitment.

When I go to Voat I always check out 'fatpeoplehate' for laughs. There are a tremendous amount of photos on these dating sites with women who weigh 400+ pounds flaunting their folds of fat in bikinis.

I have concluded that one of 2 things is true:

a. They are living in a fantasy world.
b. There really is someone out there for everyone.

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LMAO... Women have done this shite to themselves... Other than being a cock holster, most of them are not much worth a damn at anything else and that includes being a mother to their kids... They have fought long and hard for this level footing with men and now that they have it, it is a bad thing?

If anything men should be thanking them for willing reducing themselves to little more than pleasure tools... besides, men had to learn to wash clothes, cook, clean, etc in the process, which has facilitated their moving to "object" status...

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I don't agree with most of this but I do agree with the premise that woman asked for feminism, and they are starting to get it. They just didn't know what they were asking for.

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No one is forcing women to be sluts on social media. They revel in it and then blame everyone but themselves when reality sets in.

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Because self responsibility is sexist, racist, whatever other ist you want.

Responsible people from strong families who wait to have children after marriage and getting an education or skill will always have a leg up, always.

I hate the hook up culture and I was part of it in the early days of the web.

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“Guys view everything as a competition,” he elaborates with his deep, reassuring voice. “Who’s slept with the best, hottest girls?” With these dating apps, he says, “you’re always sort of prowling. You could talk to two or three girls at a bar and pick the best one, or you can swipe a couple hundred people a day—the sample size is so much larger. It’s setting up two or three Tinder dates a week and, chances are, sleeping with all of them, so you could rack up 100 girls you’ve slept with in a year.”

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I legit think that this is 100% made up. The frat star investment banker is basically public enemy number one with these people and he is just going to lay out this quote?

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When there is a surplus of women, or a perceived surplus of women, the whole mating system tends to shift towards short-term dating. Marriages become unstable. Divorces increase. Men don’t have to commit, so they pursue a short-term mating strategy. Men are making that shift, and women are forced to go along with it in order to mate at all.”

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The divorce rate went up for decades before going down in recent decades. I'm skeptical of linking cause/effect to apps that have only really been around for 5 years or so.

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When I go to Voat I always check out 'fatpeoplehate' for laughs. There are a tremendous amount of photos on these dating sites with women who weigh 400+ pounds flaunting their folds of fat in bikinis.

I have concluded that one of 2 things is true:

a. They are living in a fantasy world.
b. There really is someone out there for everyone.

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part of the lower class mindset/underclas culture, for males at least, is a belief that quantity of sex means a lot more than the quality of the person you're having sex with, which means lots of ugly/fat women are on the underclass cock carousel (to speak like that subreddit)

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Men don’t have to commit, so they pursue a short-term mating strategy. Men are making that shift, and women are forced to go along with it in order to mate at all.”

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Yeah...right. Every woman on a dating service recieves 20 times more "matches" or "likes" than the even above-average man. Basically, if you're in the top 10% of men, sure, you can play the field and get a near endless stream of poon. However, even the trashiest, nastiest, multiple kids by multiple baby daddy trailer park floozies are drowning in dick on these services. Most guys are lucky to get a match with a non-whale once every now and then. I think the "hookup" culture has a much more profound impact on women's perception of their dating prospects than it does men.

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. Basically, if you're in the top 10% of men, sure, you can play the field and get a near endless stream of poon. However, even the trashiest, nastiest, multiple kids by multiple baby daddy trailer park floozies are drowning in dick on these services. Most guys are lucky to get a match with a non-whale once every now and then.

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this is true and oft forgotten in these articles

this has accelerated the incel culture (or lite versions of it with things like the sexodus) and many people don't get it

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I think the "hookup" culture has a much more profound impact on women's perception of their dating prospects than it does men.

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well in terms of "everyone is fricking"? sure, b/c women can always find someone to frick. it's why the lack of empathy to incels was shocking (when that was the hot button story du jour a few months ago)

but the lower 50% of men who have been shut out of even talking to women have had their perceptions warped, too (hence, incels)