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re: Good read: Anti Vaxxer propaganda techniques, some of you are in there , seriously
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:13 am to Perfect Circle
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:13 am to Perfect Circle
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If they can call anyone who died with covid a "covid death", then we can call anyone who dies with the "vaccine" in them a "vax death".
My famous trope of the board
If other people were erroneous and stupid it is our obligation to also be as stupid as possible
Maybe try being honest instead of being a piece of shite. Crazy thought.
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:14 am to High Desert
quote:Not true, at all. It did, and it does. Even more so w/ n95's.
What's funny on this one is the research has NEVER supported masks.
Does research support 100% efficacy?
No. Not remotely.
If we want to extend the proposition to improper mask use, any effectiveness wanes.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:20 am to Powerman
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If other people were erroneous and stupid WHILE HAPPILY TRYING TO DESTROY THE LIVES OF ANYONE WHO OPPOSED THEM it is our obligation to also be as stupid as possible
FIFY
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:23 am to NC_Tigah
quote:Pretty much ONLY with n95s. Which no one was mandating.
Not true, at all. It did, and it does. Even more so w/ n95's.
Efficacy for any random piece of cloth shoved on your face was so marginal as to be embarrassing. And even THAT assumed perfect wear. As Fauci himself pointed out. You can't wear that shite and then constantly mess with your face(which literally everyone does).
And yeah, that's ALL before we get to things like
1. Improper wear
2. Wearing the same maks for weeks on end
No. The studies have NEVER supported that shite. Their attempts to do so were just goddamned embarrasing.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:26 am to Northwestern tiger
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I bet Strannix and Co are one of those harnessing her
Cowboy up?
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:26 am to trinidadtiger
What happened to you? Lies aren't enough to convince you? Actual findings by phizer admitting to heart damage - never before mentioned although known?
You deserve your DV.
You deserve your DV.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:27 am to NC_Tigah
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s. Even more so w/ n95's.
They never demanded n95 and the other masks are of little to no value. I submit worse because it limits fresh air
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:29 am to trinidadtiger
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I just dont understand why you guys insist on attacking people who chose the vaccine, they arent harming your life.
Seriously?
It’s like 2020-2021 never happened to some people.
These people are crying about harassment. Meanwhile, people on the other side have lost jobs, livelihoods, military careers, were ostracized as “superspreaders” and “killers”, were labeled as “idiots” and “science deniers”, and furthermore were labeled as conspiracy theorists for simply mentioning the vaccine didn’t work at all as advertised.
Probably even by this person now is crying about harassment.
When is the last time you have heard the phrase “science deniers” by the old usual suspects? What happened to that?
So don’t look down on some people dishing it back out.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:31 am to trinidadtiger
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trinidadtiger
I'm never going to let them inject me with that bullshite vaccine and there is nothing, absolutely nothing you can do about it.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:32 am to trinidadtiger
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Poor woman was tortured by these anti vaxxers, they are approaching antifa, blm levels at this point
Please point to where "anti vaxxers" burned cities
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:35 am to trinidadtiger
what the frick are you talking about, tardling?
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:37 am to Northwestern tiger
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are one of those harnessing her
Stay on topic dumbass.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:37 am to Powerman
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Maybe try being honest instead of being a piece of shite. Crazy thought.
All we asked from everyone during the past two years. Didn’t get it did we?
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:38 am to trinidadtiger
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I just dont understand why you guys insist on attacking people who chose the vaccine, they arent harming your life
Lol
Not only are you a vaccine apologist, but you’re lying to boot. Why is that?
Your dirty ilk tried to make medical decisions for me so for that, I wish you all eternal hell
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:40 am to trinidadtiger
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Dr. Celine Gounder:
Well, there are certain strategies that you see or tactics that are used over and over and over again by these disinformation spreaders.
The first is fake experts. So there was a propaganda — anti-vaccine propaganda film that came out this fall that made use of funeral directors and the like to put out disinformation. These are not people who are experts in any way about vaccines, about infectious diseases or immunology. So that's one characteristic.
Here she dismisses something concerning that is being observed by morticians because they're not 'experts' in her eyes.
This is a classic Ad Hominem, a logical fallacy and then without skipping a beat she goes to characterize other arguments logical fallacies
Then you have what are called logical fallacies, which are essentially mental shortcuts that we use when we're bombarded with information. And a great example of this is, if A happens before B, that does not necessarily mean A caused B. And now 80 percent — over 80 percent of the people in this country have gotten one dose of vaccine. That does not mean that you can attribute all of the deaths that now occur in this country to COVID vaccines.
What she's saying is true, just because someone dies after receiving the vaccine does not mean the vaccine contributed to their death in any way.
We can also apply this to Covid deaths, which are inflated by continuing to wrongfully reportthat anyone that dies after contracting Covid as a Covid death
Then you have impossible expectations. So an example of that are the people who said, I'm going to wait until the FDA issues full approval for vaccines, and then I will know it's safe enough. And then, after the full approval was issued, the goalposts moved, and they said, no, I still don't think there's enough data.
Once again, without any sense of irony she accuses others of constantly moving the goal posts; she seems to forget that we went from "the vaccine stops you from getting covid to the vaccine isn't responsible for all of the excess deaths, could be eggs or something
And, finally, you have cherry-picking of data, so looking for the data that supports your hypothesis, even though it may not actually be connected or make sense. And then conspiracy theories, or, really, lies, about — one example of this would be microchips and vaccines. That simply is not true. There are no microchips in our vaccines to track people.
What data is being cherry picked, she at least lists examples in her other paragraphs, here I guess we're just supposed to take her at her word
But these are the characteristics or tactics that you see over and over and over again in this anti-vaxxer playbook.
There is no "anti-vaxxer" playbook. You have many people for many different reasons refusing to get vaxxed. Some of the reasons sound dumb to me but those people get to make that choice as no one has a right to force it on them. In this argument there's only one side that was screaming for people to be forced into something
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:41 am to CleverUserName
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All we asked from everyone during the past two years. Didn’t get it did we?
These people really think that after 2 years of cheering on firings, employment mandates, absurd lockdowns, complete fricking of childhood education, destruction of businesses and everything else...........ALL while portraying anyone who opposed them as granny killers and routinely used the word MURDERER to describe us.............that NOW.......we're all supposed to get along?
No. I wish ill upon all of them. Forever. I hope they experience horrendous pain in their lives.
And until they do A LOT of groveling, A LOT OF GROVELING and beg for forgiveness, that ain't changing.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:46 am to JColtF
quote:Sadly, one thing learned in all of this is that doctors, oddly enough, are fricking REALLY BAD at risk assessment. I'm not even sure how that's possible, but, it is what it is.
What data is being cherry picked,
This dumb bitch is right now, on Twitter, citing the articles about childhood deaths from COVID as support for vaxing kids.
Anyone with ANY skill in comparative risk can see that the numbers being touted actually support keeping your kid away from the vax.
Honestly, what gives? Have medical schools become THAT specialized that doctors are effectively the really bright version of wrench turners?
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:46 am to High Desert
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until they do A LOT of groveling, A LOT OF GROVELING and beg for forgiveness, that ain't changing.
Best you're going to get is a "we were technically wrong but morally right"
But don't worry, pretty soon the only thing that will inconvenience you about them is getting stuck behind their funeral procession
While I don't wish anything ill on everyone that just took the vaccine because they were coerced I do wish that all the people that were in favor of forcing the vaccine on everyone else some massive blood clots
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:48 am to trinidadtiger
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This woman is a doctor who was married to a journalist that died of a heart attack while reporting at the world cup. Poor woman was tortured by these anti vaxxers, they are approaching antifa, blm levels at this point, torturing mentally the people who are trying to grieve.
The sick demented people who attempted to and in some cases DID force the vaccine on people resulting in some of those people dying prematurely because of that vaccine are slowly losing their place as the worst human beings to the anti-vaccine Nazi clans who revel in the deaths of people who's only fault was trusting what "experts" said and making personal decisions about their own healthcare.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:48 am to JColtF
quote:Yeah, that one makes me wish ill upon them more.
Best you're going to get is a "we were technically wrong but morally right"
You forgot the other variation. "We were wrong but you weren't right, you just got lucky".
CLASSIC liberalism. That's one they've done for decades. We predict something, then it happens........and they say, "well, you didn't really know........"
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