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re: God Emperor: Illegals should be deported with "no judges or court cases"
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:45 pm to TexasTiger80
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:45 pm to TexasTiger80
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Surely it can't be that hard to determine if somebody is here illegally. ID them. Don't have one, bring them in and finger print them.
Once they are in the system. We always have the prints
You think every citizen's fingerprints are on file?
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:45 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:Once upon a time, I had trouble accepting that ANYONE viewed the world in such simplistic terms.quote:So, in your mind, the only two possible positions is ripping up the Constitution and deporting anyone suspicious or having wide open borders?
Or you are a globalist that doesn’t want borders and for the US to be every “shithole’s” piggy bank.
As I have gotten older, I have come to realize that MOST people are simpletons and view the world EXACTLY like this.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:46 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Shouldn't there be a proceeding to make sure somebody is an actual illegal?
Should catching them sneaking in be enough?
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:47 pm to Dale51
quote:In the real world, yes. But it is EXACTLY the system that the previous poster advocated (absent the entertaining accent).quote:Thats a lot of fantasy right there.
”Son, I don’ lahk yer looks. You’s headed to Meheeco this ev’nin’. Good luck gettin’ back.”
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:47 pm to Antonio Moss
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You think every citizen's fingerprints are on file?
Once you get arrested they are. It should go to a federal database. Hell, I've had to get fingerprinted for work before.
I know millions of fingerprints are on file.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:48 pm to TexasTiger80
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Once you get arrested they are. It should go to a federal database. Hell, I've had to get fingerprinted for work before.
Yeah, but none of this helps determine whether someone is here legally
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:48 pm to joshnorris14
Those that come to a port of entry should get at least a quick hearing.
Anyone caught crossing illegally deserves nothing at all.
Why should the American taxpayer be burdened with the expense of providing due process to these people?
It’s insane.
Anyone caught crossing illegally deserves nothing at all.
Why should the American taxpayer be burdened with the expense of providing due process to these people?
It’s insane.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:49 pm to Antonio Moss
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So, in your mind, the only two possible positions is ripping up the Constitution and deporting anyone suspicious or having wide open borders?
So what is your suggestion that is both financially sound and efficient?
And no I never said rip up the Constitution....but I give absolutely zero fricks about illegal immigrants. Don’t care if they are 2, 20 or 80 years old. They are here to suck off the tit of the entitlements provided freely by Democrats and funded by tax payers.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:49 pm to Dale51
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They still need to be deported, right?
Yes.
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If you enter the country without authorization, it's a crime.
And crimes are selectively prosecuted all the time. We can defer any criminal proceedings until a later time and deport civilly today.
Cops make the decision on a daily basis of do I or not write the infraction up, do I overlook that joint in the ashtray while arresting for DWI? Do I bother to arrest for the cocaine in the bank robbers pocket or just the armed robbery?
On top of that prosecutors make the decisions daily too. Do we prosecute or just let it go. Balance of cost vs benefit (not just monetary/financial, but severity, etc.).
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:52 pm to Scoop
quote:So, ICE asks Miguel (or Sven) for ID on a street in San Antonio, and he does not have one on his person. We automatically load Miguel (or Sven) onto a bus and dump him in Acuna, right?
Those that come to a port of entry should get at least a quick hearing.
Anyone caught crossing illegally deserves nothing at all.
Why should the American taxpayer be burdened with the expense of providing due process to these people?
It’s insane.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:53 pm to Antonio Moss
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Yeah, but none of this helps determine whether someone is here legally
It would catch repeat offenders at least.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:53 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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Hmmm, you ain’t got valid identification, you go home. Pretty simple and very European.
So in theory we could just pick up some dude jogging and deport them because they don't have their wallet on them? Doesn't sound reasonable.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:55 pm to AggieHank86
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So, ICE asks Miguel (or Sven) for ID on a street in San Antonio, and he does not have one on his person. We automatically load Miguel (or Sven) onto a bus and dump him in Acuna, right?
can't do that. Can't take him INTO Mexico without committing an illegal entry ourselves. ICE hands him over to Mexican Authorities at the border.
Then ICE can go back to get Miguel or Svens' family that they overheard him talking about and drop them off too.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:58 pm to joshnorris14
Frankly, this seems obvious
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:59 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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Should catching them sneaking in be enough?
You'd think
Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:06 pm to Antonio Moss
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Yeah, but none of this helps determine whether someone is here legally
What is determined in a hearing that isn’t determined on the spot where the suspect is caught?
Do you think 20 days in a holding facility is going to magically allow them to pull a passport out of their arse?
Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:13 pm to Eli Goldfinger
quote:I assure you that the percentage of apprehensions that take place as folks are wading the Rio southof Lake Amistad is quite small.quote:Should catching them sneaking in be enough?
Shouldn't there be a proceeding to make sure somebody is an actual illegal?
What about the guy walking down the street in Del Rio? The guy catching a bus in San Antonio? The guy riding his bike in Dallas? Do we deport all of them, for not carrying an ID? Do we pay reparations to all the citizens and legal residents that we bus to Piedras Negras and dump across the river?
You need to actually engage your brain before applying fingers to keyboard.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:15 pm to Sidicous
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And crimes are selectively prosecuted all the time. We can defer any criminal proceedings
But why would you want to?
Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:28 pm to AggieHank86
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I assure you that the percentage of apprehensions that take place as folks are wading the Rio southof Lake Amistad is quite small
What's your point exactly? If they get caught sneaking and they don't deserve any judges. That group being a small percentage doesn't change that reality
Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:32 pm to NYNolaguy1
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You have to find it a little amusing that the same people thst think the FBI is a criminal organization think ICE or its affiliates are perfect and dont need judicial oversight .
Yep. Remember the term "Constitutional Conservative?" Seems like a long time ago. HJust another example of Trump supporters having no principles and just adopting whatever opinion they need to comply with Trump's latest tweet. He could say we should start deporting anyone who overheard speaking Spanish and some of these people would fall in line.
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