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re: God Emperor: Illegals should be deported with "no judges or court cases"

Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:29 pm to
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Sounds good. They are here illegally.
If we deprive them of a right to a hearing, how exactly are we to determine that they are here illegally.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40024 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:30 pm to
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Trump says illegal immigrants should be deported with 'no judges or court cases'.



Exactly! Courts and cases are for citizens who have rights.

They have no right to come here illegal so they go back immediately. It's more efficient and less costly which is I guess why we haven't been doing it.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17141 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:31 pm to
mere unlawful presence in the country is not a crime
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I'm not a Democrat. It is a criminal manner.


FindLAw civil vs criminal Entry vs Presence

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Unlawful Presence Is Not a Crime Some may assume that all immigrants who are in the United States without legal status must have committed improper entry. This simply isn't the case. Many foreign nationals legally enter the country on a valid work or travel visa, but fail to exit before their visa expires for a variety of reasons. But mere unlawful presence in the country is not a crime. It is a violation of federal immigration law to remain in the country without legal authorization, but this violation is punishable by civil penalties, not criminal. Chief among these civil penalties is deportation or removal, where an unlawful resident may be detained and removed from the country. Unlawful presence can also have negative consequences for a resident who may seek to gain re-entry into the United States, or permanent residency. Both improper entry and unlawful presence should be avoided by any immigrant to the United States, but an illegal alien cannot be criminally charged or incarcerated simply for being undocumented. To learn more, check out FindLaw's section on Immigration Law.



May not be a Dem but gonna have to deduct from previous score for another failure to stick the landing. 3.9
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48305 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:31 pm to
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They have no right to come here illegal so they go back immediately


How do you know he is here illegally?
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
11854 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:31 pm to
Amen.............SOBs have no roghts
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:33 pm to
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you ain’t got valid identification, you go home. Pretty simple and very European.
If I understand you correctly, anyone that ICE catches without a driver’s license on his person should be promptly deported to ... somewhere ... without hearing or due proces of any kind. Mexico is closest, so let’s just dump everyone there.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 4:38 pm
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12113 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:33 pm to
Boom, shaka lah...

About 2 months into that practice we would have no more immigration issue. Saves time, money and leftie tears.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:33 pm to
If they look suspicious, they should be gone

If yoyrw a citizen, you wouldn't look suspicious

These ice agents are well trained to know the difference
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:35 pm to
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As a young teenager, Carrillo automatically became a U.S. citizen when his mother went through the naturalization process. As an adult, he had two serious run-ins with law enforcement: a 2007 conviction for carrying a concealed weapon and another in 2011 for sending sexually explicit material to a minor, according to law enforcement records reviewed by The Times. In the second case, Carrillo was sentenced to 240 days in jail and three years’ probation, the records show
.


Yeah....he seems nice.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48305 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:38 pm to
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May not be a Dem but gonna have to deduct from previous score for another failure to stick the landing. 3.9


Both you and the Democrats are wrong. Unlawful presence is a considered a civil infraction (although, for the purpose of this thread, it's an irrelevant distinction as the 5th still applies). However, unlawfully entry is a crime and the Democrat footstomping was in response to the arrest made at the border for unlawfully entry.

If you overstay your visa, it's technically a civil infraction (still irrelevant)

If you enter the country without authorization, it's a crime.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17453 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:38 pm to
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Once again, people that want to deport "illegals" without hearings have wayyy too much faith in govt and federal agents.


Or you are a globalist that doesn’t want borders and for the US to be every “shithole’s” piggy bank.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64322 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:38 pm to
What are you saying slick?
Don't be all mealy mouthed come out and be clear.
Snark is not clear.

Crossed the border illegal is now a muddled unknowable thing?
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:39 pm to
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Many foreign nationals legally enter the country on a valid work or travel visa, but fail to exit before their visa expires



Thats nice. Then their name would show up in the VISA data base. They still need to be deported, right?
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:39 pm to
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If we deprive them of a right to a hearing, how exactly are we to determine that they are here illegally.


Surely it can't be that hard to determine if somebody is here illegally. ID them. Don't have one, bring them in and finger print them.

Once they are in the system. We always have the prints.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40024 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:40 pm to
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How do you know he is here illegally?



Donde estan tus papeles?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:40 pm to
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If they look suspicious, they should be gone

If yoyrw a citizen, you wouldn't look suspicious

These ice agents are well trained to know the difference
”Son, I don’ lahk yer looks. You’s headed to Meheeco this ev’nin’. Good luck gettin’ back.”
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48305 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:41 pm to
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Or you are a globalist that doesn’t want borders and for the US to be every “shithole’s” piggy bank.


So, in your mind, the only two possible positions is ripping up the Constitution and deporting anyone suspicious or having wide open borders?
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 4:42 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73552 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:43 pm to
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So, in your mind, the only two possible positions is ripping up the Constitution and deporting anyone suspicious or having wide open borders?


The wall and focus on the ports of entry might be the best solution
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:43 pm to




Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:44 pm to
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”Son, I don’ lahk yer looks. You’s headed to Meheeco this ev’nin’. Good luck gettin’ back.”



Thats a lot of fantasy right there.
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