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George W. Bush sides with Texas megachurch that voted to leave UMC
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:05 pm
OK, maybe he's not all gone to the left.
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Former President George W. Bush and former first lady Laura Bush have reportedly sided with their longtime Texas church after it recently voted to leave the United Methodist Church amid a legal dispute with the denomination, with a spokesperson saying the couple participated in the vote.
George Bush, 80, and Laura Bush, 80, who have been members and frequent attendees of Highland Park Methodist Church of Dallas since the 1980s, have recently voiced support for lead pastor the Rev. Matt Tuggle.
Highland Park voted overwhelmingly last month to disaffiliate from the UMC while it is in litigation with regional conference over changes to the church’s governing documents.
Church leaders also argued that the congregation has continued to participate fully in the UMC since the changes, including paying its annual financial contributions to the conference even after more than 7,500 churches left the Mainline denomination amid a schism over LGBT issues.
Highland Park leaders held a town hall meeting last month about possibly leaving the UMC. Around 800 people attended. At the event, several Church Council members said conference leaders had mistreated the church’s pastors and staff solely because of the bylaw changes.
The church held a vote Oct. 25–26 asking members whether they wanted to disaffiliate from the UMC. The Highland Park Church Council sent a letter on Oct. 26 announcing that, of 4,775 votes cast, 90.35% had voted to leave the denomination.
How are they 80?! And their younger daughter Barbara donated to the Talarico freak.
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Former President George W. Bush and former first lady Laura Bush have reportedly sided with their longtime Texas church after it recently voted to leave the United Methodist Church amid a legal dispute with the denomination, with a spokesperson saying the couple participated in the vote.
George Bush, 80, and Laura Bush, 80, who have been members and frequent attendees of Highland Park Methodist Church of Dallas since the 1980s, have recently voiced support for lead pastor the Rev. Matt Tuggle.
Highland Park voted overwhelmingly last month to disaffiliate from the UMC while it is in litigation with regional conference over changes to the church’s governing documents.
Church leaders also argued that the congregation has continued to participate fully in the UMC since the changes, including paying its annual financial contributions to the conference even after more than 7,500 churches left the Mainline denomination amid a schism over LGBT issues.
Highland Park leaders held a town hall meeting last month about possibly leaving the UMC. Around 800 people attended. At the event, several Church Council members said conference leaders had mistreated the church’s pastors and staff solely because of the bylaw changes.
The church held a vote Oct. 25–26 asking members whether they wanted to disaffiliate from the UMC. The Highland Park Church Council sent a letter on Oct. 26 announcing that, of 4,775 votes cast, 90.35% had voted to leave the denomination.
How are they 80?! And their younger daughter Barbara donated to the Talarico freak.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:10 pm to conservativewifeymom
They are late. We did that 2 years ago and just about cant handle the new folks wanting to join us.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:12 pm to conservativewifeymom
Yet his family supported Talifreako.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:13 pm to Diamondawg
How are you handling the finances? I'm familiar with a former UMC that is having to pay millions to the liberal side for the buildings and other real estate. It's messy!
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:14 pm to Marshhen
I read that only Barbara did, do you have more info?
As parents, we only have so much influence and the younger generations are pretty messed up.
As parents, we only have so much influence and the younger generations are pretty messed up.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:32 pm to conservativewifeymom
frick W, the Bushes and all those GOPe/uniparty RINOs.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:39 pm to conservativewifeymom
quote:From my understanding, this guy helped set a national precident. I figured if it worked from one denomination, it may work for another??
How are you handling the finances? I'm familiar with a former UMC that is having to pay millions to the liberal side for the buildings and other real estate. It's messy!
Just sharing what little I know.
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Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:54 pm to conservativewifeymom
Maybe the Bushes can build them a new church.
The United Methodist Church maintains a centuries-old trust clause, first established by John Wesley, that says church property is held in trust for the benefit of the denomination. That means that while people can leave a church at any time, they can’t take property with them.
A temporary disaffiliation policy allowed churches a limited release from the trust clause if they met certain conditions including two-thirds majority support from the congregation. But that policy has since expired, and the 2024 General Conference took the step of removing it from the Book of Discipline entirely.
It will be interesting to see how the litigation turns out with this one.
The United Methodist Church maintains a centuries-old trust clause, first established by John Wesley, that says church property is held in trust for the benefit of the denomination. That means that while people can leave a church at any time, they can’t take property with them.
A temporary disaffiliation policy allowed churches a limited release from the trust clause if they met certain conditions including two-thirds majority support from the congregation. But that policy has since expired, and the 2024 General Conference took the step of removing it from the Book of Discipline entirely.
It will be interesting to see how the litigation turns out with this one.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 3:27 pm to LuckyTiger
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It will be interesting to see how the litigation turns out with this one.
I know
Lawyers from both sides will make a lot of money or they will get an inflated value for goodwill from costing the donation atthe retail prices of their services.
Nothing else matters.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 4:35 pm to conservativewifeymom
The UMC is the ultimate joke of all Protestant denominations. Ask one what and why he believes what he does and I can guarantee that the best response he can formulate is that it is not Catholic. If you chose 1,000 United Methodists at random I would be amazed if one of them could tell you what Arminian theology is much less explain it.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 4:49 pm to conservativewifeymom
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How are they 80?! And their younger daughter Barbara donated to the Talarico freak.
I have sent time and time again - daughters of wealthy / powerful parents will tend to slide to more liberal causes and candidates.
And GWB has always been a liberal in sheep’s clothing. He is a Yale secret society lefty.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 5:44 pm to conservativewifeymom
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I read that only Barbara did, do you have more info?
George's brother Neal did as well and publicly endorsed him.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:15 am to conservativewifeymom
quote:We had to pay I believe 2 years’ apportionments and unfunded pensions for pastors and staff. The “Trust Clause” is crap as no UMC church actually owns the property as you are aware. But, in the long run our giving to the Global Methodist conference is way less each year.
How are you handling the finances? I'm familiar with a former UMC that is having to pay millions to the liberal side for the buildings and other real estate. It's messy!
Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:59 am to conservativewifeymom
frick every single Bush
Posted on 11/10/26 at 7:16 am to conservativewifeymom
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George W. Bush
Having been POTUS, I wonder if he will chime in when dems move ahead with packing the court, adding states and eliminating by tactics, the Electoral College. Will we hear anything?
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:44 am to grizzlylongcut
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frick every single Bush
That is generally how it works.
I'd personally stop short of "every," but yeah, that's the mechanism.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:20 am to wackatimesthree
The methodist lgbtq business destroyed the Methodist church where I was finance mgr about 10 years ago. Folks just quit attending and receipts became insufficient to pay the power bill. It all came to a head when the next budget reduction was reducing the apportionment and pastor salary. The district claimed absolute power over those two issues. Big meeting, shouting resulted in just more people leaving. The facility can litigate leaving, the congregation just walks.
With international job my family attended many different churches over the years. Its the congregation that makes a good church, not the building or denomination.
With international job my family attended many different churches over the years. Its the congregation that makes a good church, not the building or denomination.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:42 am to Marshhen
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Yet his family supported Talifreako
And they were right to oppose the criminal
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:40 pm to Trevaylin
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The methodist lgbtq business destroyed the Methodist church where I was finance mgr about 10 years ago.
Human sexuality has been debated in the UMC since the early 70s. So yes, I guess that's what brought this to a head (pun intended) but it accelerated when the Council of Bishops and Judicial Council reneged on a plan of separation called the Indianapolis Plan in 2019, then covid hit when postponed General Conference and again and again, until 2022 I think when they met and said the deal was off. The plan would have allowed everyone to go their separate ways, Traditional, Progressive or one other (can't remember). Once they pulled that crap the meetings started in most every Methodist Church that I am aware of. They essentially said that you have two choices, adopt our progressive way of thinking or buy your way out. Last count, 7,000 Churches did just that.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:11 pm to KillTheGophers
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And GWB has always been a liberal in sheep’s clothing.
No he’s not, and he never has been.
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