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re: Gavin Newsom has banned political ’memes’ in California.

Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:36 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:36 am to
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Unless you’re just dumb enough to think inflation takes 4 years to manifest.


The current one took about ten years of constant debt accumulation. You run out of tools after a while, and thats what happened when Covid retardation set in.

Unless youre a big fan of modern monetary theory.

This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 9:37 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:37 am to
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His soft defense of pedophilia



Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:40 am to
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 10:06 am to
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Saying inflation lags is a non-subjective statement. I don't think anyone will even claim it's an incorrect statement.
Saying it lags 4 years is both incorrect and subjective.

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Saying that we mays not yet be feeling the effects of one major set of printing has nothing to do with a subjectivity or preference
Except it does when it subjective and does show preference. If did not show bias you would not have to use the word Biden, so by implication you’re implying it’s still Trump’s policies causing it.

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That comment isn't even a partisan statement, as both Biden and Trump's inflation are accounted for.
It is as you imply by using the word Biden and speculating we may not have seen Biden’s yet.

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There is no claim one is better or worse or any subjective/partisan assessment involved.
If you can’t see you did in fact demonstrate a clear bias you should probably think about that a little bit. You didn’t claim one was worse, just that we may not have seen the other yet which quite clearly demonstrates your bias that you believe Trump (or another president if you’re going to try and claim inflation takes more than 8 years to manifest) is the cause.

Again, you used the word Biden, if you had no bias you wouldn’t have used it.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 10:11 am to
Who is the real threat to democracy?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 10:14 am to
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Saying it lags 4 years is both incorrect and subjective.

How is it subjective?

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Except it does when it subjective and does show preference

It does not

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. If did not show bias you would not have to use the word Biden, so by implication you’re implying it’s still Trump’s policies causing it.

This is literally not logic

Again, you had the need to derail this thread so hard you posted something from another discussion without context.

Now you're doubling down on that mis-stating the conversation from the other thread.

Just for record purposes, the digression from the other thread:

Rog:

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tariffs are inflationary.

I dont understand why thats so hard for some here.


mikeytig:

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How was inflation at the end of Trumps term?


SFP:

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Inflation lags.

We may not even be feeling Biden's inflation yet.


Biden was referenced as nothing more than a temporal variable. There was no partisanship, and, in fact, bringing up Biden in response to Trump could only be argued to be a pro-Trump, anti-Biden suggestion regardless. But whataboutism was not the substance of the comment, only the temporal variable of when we feel each set of printing.


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It is as you imply by using the word Biden and speculating we may not have seen Biden’s yet.

No, this makes no sense.

Biden was only referenced as a temporal marker. If you want my subjective stances, I was against the printing by Trump and Biden.

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which quite clearly demonstrates your bias that you believe Trump (or another president if you’re going to try and claim inflation takes more than 8 years to manifest) is the cause.

He was the cause of inflation. This is a fact.

The only issue is the temporal variable, and when that inflation was felt.

No bias involved.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20919 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 10:30 am to
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How is it subjective?
Lord… when you imply that we may not have seen Biden’s inflation yet you are subjectively stating an opinion.

Subjective most commonly means based on the personal perspective or preferences of a person—the subject who’s observing something.

Definition by the way. You asserted your opinion about it which is…..subjective. Hope that cleared that up for you.

Nice try btw on dancing around.

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There was no partisanship, and, in fact, bringing up Biden in response to Trump could only be argued to be a pro-Trump, anti-Biden suggestion regardless.
Which would be demonstrating a bias. Kind of funny you even argued it does while saying it doesn’t.

We all have them, you simply can’t recognize your own apparently.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 10:32 am to
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when you imply




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that we may not have seen Biden’s inflation yet you are subjectively stating an opinion.

It's more an analysis than opinion. It may be wrong. It's not subjective, regardless and it certainly isn't partisan.

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Subjective most commonly means based on the personal perspective or preferences of a person

And my personal preferences have nothing to do with the comment. That's where your argument fails.

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Nice try btw on dancing around.

You need to understand the definitions you post.

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Which would be demonstrating a bias.

If it was done for "personal preference", which it was not.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23381 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:08 am to
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This is why we have laws covering libel, slander and fraud.

If they’re a candidate in a large enough election where memes and deep fakes are made, they have the resources to file suit.

Current slander laws make it nearly impossible to sue someone for slander once you are a public figure.

Trump has bemoaned this issue multiple times because people just make up things about him and he cant sue them for it.
Posted by Fencepimp
Brusly
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:11 am to
Facking Fug
Posted by faraway
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:28 am to
what part of the 1st amendment can you not read
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20919 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:52 pm to
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It's more an analysis than opinion. It may be wrong. It's not subjective
It’s your analysis, not someone else’s. That is the very definition of subjective. Even if you don’t consider it to be your opinion (which it is, because you said it). Your personal perspective.

Do you need a primer or some remedial classes so you can understand definitions?
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