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re: Fox News Madeleine Rivera: NG Shooter Was Afghan Illegal Who Worked With CIA

Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:23 am to
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:23 am to
Both are probably true and both are problems.

I don’t think Trumps admin had any harmful intent in letting him stay any more than Biden did by letting him in in the first place.

The problem is we imported a problem because he helped the CIA and then kept him around and completely failed to monitor him. The system is broken.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:28 am to
How do anti-Trump forces benefit from this?

Even though it had nothing to do with the putative reason to deploy NG to cities, public opinion is going to be overwhelmingly in favor of the NG and will bolster Trump's position.

What am I missing?
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:32 am to
“The system is broken.“(Quote)

And now worthless re solving the ideological divide which is essentially a cold civil war moving to hot. But our Leaders are delivering the platitudinous word salad that we all are getting sick of. Honestly, it fans the fires of frustration and pent up anger.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:40 am to
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The system is broken.


Better now, regarding who is coming in.

The problem is there are millions that were let in, unvetted and unmonitored, during the Biden Administration.

That’s an enormous mess to try to fix.

The gates have been closed and the gatehouses staffed and allowed to operate once again. But the wound inside may be mortal.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112063 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:42 am to
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I'm sure we'll get reporting on this, but, as I understand it, granting asylum would have been done by a DOJ administrative judge.


It would have been DHS and the only time an administrative law judge would have seen it is if the initial request was denied and the asylum seeker sought review.

So either way, a Biden holdover at DHS approved it.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:43 am to
“How do anti-Trump forces benefit from this?“(Quote)

The Dems are throwing down the gauntlet, Bill; note their response that it is Trump’s fault for sending in troops to promote his deportation and crime fighting action in THEIR Cities. They win by putting the Republicans in the corner of either drop the aggressive policies or inflame passions toward violent reactions. Which narrative do you think that Americans will support in the Midterms? Abandon the deportation and anti crime policies or ramp up the bloodshed? Guess we’ll find out as the violence increases.
Posted by retired_tiger
Member since Oct 2025
236 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:44 am to
Illegal?

Not quite. Time to update your talking points.


"Lakanwal applied for asylum in 2024 and was granted asylum in April 2025, under the Trump administration, according to three law enforcement sources." LINK
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:45 am to
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Option 1) Its a coincidence



Speaking of weird coincidences, the parents of Ronald Reagan’s would-be assassin, John Hinkley, not only were political benefactors of the Bush family dynasty, but family friends with the Bush Clan. The patriarchs of both clans were wealthy Houston oilmen:



Neil Bush (later implicated in the Savings & Loans Scandal that also implicated John McCain) was indeed scheduled to dine with John Hinkley’s brother the very night of the attempted Reagan assassination. Despite this bizarre family connection, the official investigation into the Reagan assassination attempt determined very early into it’s inquiry that Hinkley was a lone nut loser.

As UPI reported at the time, “it is not unusual” that Hinkley would would cross paths with the Bushes. Sure — it certainly is not unusual whatsoever that the son of dear family friends of the Vice President attempted to murder the President of the United States — I mean, that must be a pretty common occurrence, right?



Yet another weird coincidence is that Hinkley’s father was a benefactor of World Vision, a global Christian Service Mission which some suspect of being a USAID funded CIA front. Mark David Chapman, John Lennon’s killer, was also once an employee of World Vision.



It is interesting to note that Reagan was elected in 1980 with large support from the Goldwater wing of the GOP that was suspicious of globalist organizations (then called “internationalism”) like the Trilateral Commission which had been founded by David Rockefeller. Reagan likewise was supported by hard money crank-cases that called for a return to the Gold Standard.

During the 1980 primary, Reagan railed on Padre Bush’s membership in the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations. Reagan likewise argued for a return to the Gold Standard:



Yet these issues were summarily taken off the table after Reagan won the GOP nomination. And Reagan himself was forced to embrace Rockefeller Republicanism when he named George Bush to be his VP pick.

What does all this mean? Perhaps nothing beyond a series of very crazy coincidences.




This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 9:11 am
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:49 am to
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100% the person that stamped that application was a Biden holdover at DHS



I wouldn’t necessarily argue against that.

Yet don’t get too focused on the characters in the passing parade.

While Presidents come and go, the Deep State rules in perpetuity.



Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5626 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:50 am to
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The problem is there are millions that were let in, unvetted and unmonitored, during the Biden Administration.

That’s an enormous mess to try to fix.

And thats the "harmful intent" from the Democrats/Biden Admin. What the board lefties try to gaslight about.

Overwhelm the system that can't get fixed enough, unless we go to "interment camp" to ship out level solutions. Then that'll be something for them to whine about... "why so mean??" . And then their judicial activist kick in, and put it on the Right to support ignoring them.

Vicious cycle the Right falls for, so not totally innocent.

Now the Lefties have moved the goalposts to be able to say "you were ok with it then". Rinse repeat until the anti-American Democrats have "fundamentally transformed America".
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 8:52 am
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
16994 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:50 am to
Middle eastern unvetted haven’t even begun to crank up the destruction. Add them to a long list of illegals, 20-30 million of them including Chinese nationals and this party hasn’t even started yet
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
45939 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:59 am to
There are no coincidences
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23248 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 9:07 am to
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What exactly is the "right wing" of the deep state?


Lindsey Graham. Or is this some type of trick question?




Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 9:09 am to
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Middle eastern unvetted haven’t even begun to crank up the destruction.


Tens of thousands entered US unvetted after Kabul airlift….

NOVEMBER 24, 2021 05:25 PM
BY ANNA GIARITELLI

Almost none of the 82,000 people airlifted from Kabul in August were vetted before being admitted to the United States, despite claims to the contrary from the Biden administration, according to a congressional memo summarizing interviews with federal officials who oversaw the effort at domestic and international military bases….



Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20050 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 9:13 am to
How does Lyndsay Graham differ from the Bush/Clinton/Obama wing of the deep state functionally?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7823 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 9:15 am to
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So either way, a Biden holdover at DHS approved it.


Thanks. What was the name of that Biden holdover? I hadn't seen that...or are you just speculating?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112063 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 9:16 am to
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Thanks. What was the name of that Biden holdover? I hadn't seen that...or are you just speculating?


Educated guess
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7823 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 9:16 am to
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Educated guess


Thx
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23248 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 9:27 am to
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How does Lyndsay Graham differ from the Bush/Clinton/Obama wing of the deep state functionally?


Well for one thing — and despite some earlier vacillation — Graham is now squarely in the Trump camp.



Yet Graham doesn’t differ from the Clinton/Bush side of the equation in that Graham is a neoconservative and supports perpetual Empire.





Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20050 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 9:45 am to
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Well for one thing — and despite some earlier vacillation — Graham is now squarely in the Trump camp.

Lyndsay Graham is Trump’s deep state handler to divert him from his MAGA inclinations and campaign promises. The man can stroke DJT like no other.

Look at his voting record, dude is George W Bush if W needed both hands to keep the closet door closed.
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