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re: Fossil fuel use to zero
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:29 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:29 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
I’m all for nuclear.
Wasn’t trying to argue. I was just throwing that out there. Many people think EV’s are better for the environment when they are actually worse.
Wasn’t trying to argue. I was just throwing that out there. Many people think EV’s are better for the environment when they are actually worse.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 2:32 pm
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:30 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Diversification of the energy supply would make us more energy independent.
Like fracking.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:36 pm to Crimson Wraith
I heard one of the PMs on BBC yesterday say "the European Union will be 100% fossil fuel free by 2030".
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:41 pm to AndyCBR
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It’s not just that. There are leases, exploration, permits to drill, production infrastructure, completions, production, refining, and distribution. It’s a long chain of events to get that drop of gas in your car or the PVC pellets to the plant that makes the vinyl siding or pipe.
Correct, it is a long chain. So why use all the metrics when one will do? The vast majority of companies are requesting permits because they have those other pieces in place. Why get a drill permit when you don’t have a lease, land that can produce from more drilling, the infrastructure to pull it, a refinery to refine it and the distribution network to sell it? Permits are a measure of orgs that have the chain in place and have the market incentive to do it.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:39 pm to BugAC
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Like fracking.
Hydraulic fracturing is simply putting the lemon in the juicer after you've squeezed it by hand. Production logs for fracking show that by far, the most production is in the first two years, after that it plummets. Fracking is not some new energy source, it's squeezing the last few drops after you thought you'd already gotten every thing you could.
The only real problem I have with fracking is the regs concerning the casing. If they were as strict with that as they are with injection well casing, they would minimize most environmental issues with fracking.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:41 pm to Crimson Wraith
Biden should issue one of his imperial decrees, that should do it!
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:46 pm to Mr. Hangover
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There's nothing morally wrong with zero fossil fuel use, it's just a matter of practicality.
I'm saying that zero fossil fuel use is impractical here.
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frick you and frick anyone who thinks the way you do
It looks like you're disagreeing that zero fossil fuel use is impractical.
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You liberal pussies are so hell-bent on sending our country down the shitter that you don’t even take time to think about the logistics of the bullshite you try to push on everybody else. Do you enjoy paying five dollars a gallon at the pump? I hope you do, because your fricking party got us into this position
And then you freak the frick out.
WTF is wrong with you people?
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Mr. Hangover
Oh, I see now.
Carry on - and drink plenty of fluids.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 4:55 pm to Crimson Wraith
How stupid can one person be? Are we going back to glider planes and sailing ships? What will replace plastic?
And no one challenges these ignorant statements.
And no one challenges these ignorant statements.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:08 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Because other sources are cheaper than ours could ever be.
The free market doesn't care about "our own domestic resources", nor does the free market care about "foreign oil". The free market cares about cost effectiveness. If it's more cost effective to buy stock from Saudi Arabia, than frick having to depend solely on domestic supply. Just put your nationalism aside, and look at market efficiencies.
Your view is simplistic. Your idea of cost effectiveness doesn’t take into account the moral dilemma of purchasing from countries whose values are at odds with ours and actively work on the world stage to subvert those values. Then we pay tax dollars or go into debt to go to war in order to protect access to those imports. Since the environmental regulations of despotic regimes are practically non-existent, you can count that toward the real cost as well. Foreign oil is by no means cheaper than what we can produce at home no matter what the publicly traded price is.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:20 pm to bungalow233b
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Correct, it is a long chain. So why use all the metrics when one will do? The vast majority of companies are requesting permits because they have those other pieces in place. Why get a drill permit when you don’t have a lease, land that can produce from more drilling, the infrastructure to pull it, a refinery to refine it and the distribution network to sell it? Permits are a measure of orgs that have the chain in place and have the market incentive to do it.
I don't even understand the point of your post.
My point was picking any one metric of a multi-step process as the defining measure of the whole is stupid.
I gather you feel the opposite way.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:38 pm to Crimson Wraith
The activists fight the wind and solar projects too, so I don't know how we are supposed to get to net zero.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:43 pm to stout
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So how will we produce electricity? Nuclear? They don't want that either.
That would be ideal but honestly the production is probably the easier problem to solve. How the frick do they plan to deliver that much electricity on our current lines?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:55 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:so be honest... will the Airline Industry be using electric turbines to fly those big birds?
it's just a matter of practicality.
will Amtrak become all electric?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:01 pm to Crimson Wraith
I mean, they hate nuclear, so it's obvious what they are going for.
enforce a literal peasant class and disappear anyone who steps out of line.
enforce a literal peasant class and disappear anyone who steps out of line.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:24 pm to AndyCBR
My point is that permits are a product of having those other things lined up. Permits have expiration dates. Only companies with those lined up would request permits. Including those other factors just tells you if companies are likely to request permits.
Back to my original point, if you want to know if there are any barriers to any of those things (land leases, infrastructure, distribution, refineries, PVC pellets) then you look at permits. There isn’t any truth to the statement that “companies are being blocked from drill” since the total permits granted is greater than the average of the previous four years and greater than totals for three of the four years.
Back to my original point, if you want to know if there are any barriers to any of those things (land leases, infrastructure, distribution, refineries, PVC pellets) then you look at permits. There isn’t any truth to the statement that “companies are being blocked from drill” since the total permits granted is greater than the average of the previous four years and greater than totals for three of the four years.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:30 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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There's nothing morally wrong with zero fossil fuel use,
Hollleee shat! You first moron. There’s no helping people like you.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:37 am to bungalow233b
I think this is really semantics.
To state that the current administration is not trying to actively prevent oil and gas companies from thriving is a lie.
They have flat out stated it verbally, in writing, and via policy decisions.
To state that the current administration is not trying to actively prevent oil and gas companies from thriving is a lie.
They have flat out stated it verbally, in writing, and via policy decisions.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:42 am to AndyCBR
I'm not optimistic about the future of fossil fuels, but I am also not a cornucopian. We are not going to run the global economy and interstate commerce on green anything. I don't think these green energy imbeciles understand that no fossil fuels means guaranteed economic collapse.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:43 am to Bunk Moreland
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no fossil fuels means guaranteed economic collapse.
And the only way to achieve no fossil fuels is to bribe the developing world, b/c if they're not allowed to use FFs they're going back to the iron age
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:47 am to SlowFlowPro
Yeah, that reminds me, when the peak oil stuff was really hot in the mid 2000's there was discussion about things like how to keep Africa in the stone age. The uncomfortable problem is 1.4 billion Chinese want to live like American suburbia and that is just not going to happen.
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