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re: Fossil fuel use to zero
Posted on 3/9/22 at 12:42 pm to Crimson Wraith
Posted on 3/9/22 at 12:42 pm to Crimson Wraith
Trains, planes and automobiles?
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 1:07 pm to memphis tiger
The government doesn’t get a say in how fossil fuel is utilized, that is on private companies. If they can get a better price overseas, for example Europe, then the us consumer is competing against the global market. Most years we are a net exporter of fossil fuels. If OPEC and other global prices are lower then we are net importers.
How would we utilize more domestic fossil fuels if foreign prices are high, since increase in domestic production would increase global supply, not domestic supply in our system?
Somewhat irrelevant from a global supply standpoint but drill permit granting is not down. This is a sore subject for the greenies.
How would we utilize more domestic fossil fuels if foreign prices are high, since increase in domestic production would increase global supply, not domestic supply in our system?
Somewhat irrelevant from a global supply standpoint but drill permit granting is not down. This is a sore subject for the greenies.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 3/9/22 at 1:12 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Undoubtedly the future will reveal other methods of either rotating the magnetic field, or of generating steam.
What the frick are you babbling about?
This Buck Rogers future of yours is a long ways off.
Fossil fuels in modern engines are incredibly efficient and clean burning.
Until you can slap a Mr. Fusion on your flying Delorean it’s the best option we have now.
As far as “energy independence” we have the means to do that already but the policy makers want to make winners and losers instead.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 1:16 pm to bungalow233b
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drill permit granting is not down.
It’s not just that. There are leases, exploration, permits to drill, production infrastructure, completions, production, refining, and distribution.
It’s a long chain of events to get that drop of gas in your car or the PVC pellets to the plant that makes the vinyl siding or pipe.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 1:22 pm to Crimson Wraith
These arse hats are delusional. How in the he'll do they expect to run 18 wheelers on batterys.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 1:23 pm to Crimson Wraith
I’ll ride my Unicorn to work.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 1:49 pm to memphis tiger
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By the fedgov getting out of the way and letting the market do what the market will do sans interference.
I think a good start to that would be to lift the oil export ban in the US. Fortunately, that already happened in 2015.
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Only a brain dead leftist would argue that letting the market run without unnecessary meddling by the government is somehow anti-free market.
Good thing nobody's saying that.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 1:51 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
You and Brian Deese are retards.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 1:52 pm to memphis tiger
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I'm a moderate, I don't subscribe to ideologies
Ah…. The lie all ideologues try to sell. Mostly to themselves.
So what ideology would you ascribe to someone who is promoting a broad-based approach to energy generation, to include fossil fuels, nuclear power, solar, geothermal and developing fusion technology? Because that's exactly what I've been advocating. Is that really some kind of radical, leftist approach?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 1:56 pm to memphis tiger
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if government got out of the way and let us utilize our own resources, it would go a long way to reducing foreign dependency…and you don’t have to force companies to sell on certain places to do it.
What if we could never produce oil as cheaply as the Arabians? Should we ignore the market pressure to utilize cheaper foreign supply and just stick with domestic supply even though it's more expensive?
I just don't think a lot of people ITT are thinking in terms of the GLOBAL market for oil. Our refineries buy supply from wherever it makes the most economic sense. They don't try to limit themselves to only using domestic supply. But now people ITT are proposing that we only use domestic supply. Why ignore the international market where stock could be acquired more cheaply?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:01 pm to memphis tiger
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Please explain how increased utilization of our own domestic resources is not believing in the free market.
Because other sources are cheaper than ours could ever be.
The free market doesn't care about "our own domestic resources", nor does the free market care about "foreign oil". The free market cares about cost effectiveness. If it's more cost effective to buy stock from Saudi Arabia, than frick having to depend solely on domestic supply.
Just put your nationalism aside, and look at market efficiencies.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:03 pm to WildManGoose
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That's great, but how dumb do you have to be to forsake the most reliable source that you have while you search for that unicorn?
Why would you want to forsake it?
There's nothing wrong with diversifying.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:04 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Did you know it takes 2.5 times the btu's to run an electric car verses gasoline.
The energy has to come from somewhere.
The energy has to come from somewhere.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:08 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Your kinfolk have been saying we are going to run out of fossil fuels since the 70's.
You obviously don't know my kinfolk because the fact of the matter is my kinfolk have been generating revenue from oil and gas royalties since the 70s.
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let the technology develop organically and sensibly?
You mean like how we developed the technology to tap into nuclear fission as an energy source?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:17 pm to Jack Carter
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I wouldn't say that that's the ONLY way to energy independence, but it could.
Oil is a guaranteed way of being energy independent
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There's nothing morally wrong with zero fossil fuel use
There is also nothing morally wrong with 100% fossil fuel use
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it's just a matter of practicality.
Oil is incredibly practical
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I would say that minimizing dependence on fossil fuels would lead to greater energy independence.
Like Germany?
Holy parsing out a statement in order to take everything out of context, Batman!
Here's the whole statement:
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I wouldn't say that that's the ONLY way to energy independence, but it could. There's nothing morally wrong with zero fossil fuel use, it's just a matter of practicality. I would say that minimizing dependence on fossil fuels would lead to greater energy independence.
I'm saying zero fossil fuel use is NOT the only way to energy independence, but could conceivably lead there.
I'm also saying that there's nothing morally wrong with zero fossil fuel use, IT'S JUST NOT PRACTICAL.
Then I say that lessening dependence on one energy source, namely oil, could help lead to energy independence - to which you curiously replied, "You mean like Germany?" Which is odd because Germany has been in the process of becoming MORE dependent on fossil fuels since they began moving AWAY FROM nuclear power, and TOWARDS importing more fossil fuels from Russia since the Fukushima nuclear incident in 2011. Germany is literally doing the complete opposite of what I'm promoting ITT.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:23 pm to AndyCBR
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This Buck Rogers future of yours is a long ways off.
When Spindle Top came in, how far off was nuclear fission?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:26 pm to loogaroo
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Did you know it takes 2.5 times the btu's to run an electric car verses gasoline.
How many BTUs does your average nuclear reactor generate?
How many BTUs will second generation fusion reactors generate?
Diversification of the energy supply would make us more energy independent.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:27 pm to Crimson Wraith
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Biden economic advisor Brian Deese: "The only viable path to energy independence" is to reduce fossil fuel use to "zero."
Well, they are on the road to starting WW3 so that may happen soon.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:28 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I wouldn't say that that's the ONLY way to energy independence, but it could. There's nothing morally wrong with zero fossil fuel use, it's just a matter of practicality. I would say that minimizing dependence on fossil fuels would lead to greater energy independence.
I was trying to think of a decent reply and something cordial to say to you in reply, but at this point all I can think about is frick you and frick anyone who thinks the way you do
You liberal pussies are so hell-bent on sending our country down the shitter that you don’t even take time to think about the logistics of the bullshite you try to push on everybody else. Do you enjoy paying five dollars a gallon at the pump? I hope you do, because your fricking party got us into this position
Son of a bitch, you people are so fricking stupid, I can’t stand y’all
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:29 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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How many BTUs does your average nuclear reactor generate?
How many BTUs will second generation fusion reactors generate?
Diversification of the energy supply would make us more energy independent.
It takes 10 years for a Nuclear plant to go from idea to in-service, and the NRC has made it so expensive to build them that only one has started construction over the last 30+ years.
And no one wants to hold the Nuclear waste in their state. We spent billions on Yucca Mountain, but Obama gave Harry Reid a handy by stopping further construction in 2008.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 2:31 pm
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