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re: For those asking for one good thing Trump did.....
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:39 am to pankReb
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:39 am to pankReb
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fwiw I approved the China tariff. I recognize some of the downfalls of it but I do believe those to be short term for long term benefits.
We needed them on steel and aluminum. China was dumpling hard on those industries and US steel and aluminum industries were having difficulty staying afloat. We need those domestic industries for national security reasons.
Now we need to do the same thing with pharmaceuticals.
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Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:39 am to frogtown
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Why did farm subsidies go up by a 4 mulitple from 2017-2020?
We have already been through this. You can jump up and down and demand we accept free trade with communist nations all day long. You can demand that we continue our march to globalism....
But the fact is, Trump's economy helped the whole nation and they did not see prices go up due to the tariffs.
Now go grab your half truth from the Chamber and their study.... I need a great laugh today
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:39 am to lake chuck fan
That probably is the one good thing he did. Not sure where it came from, because he doesn't seem like the kind of guy to actually get the big picture of what the country needs. Maybe it was a Bannon policy that he forgot about?
In any respect, they need to punish companies for shipping production overseas. We need crucial domestic production as not only a form of economic stimulus, but national security.
In any respect, they need to punish companies for shipping production overseas. We need crucial domestic production as not only a form of economic stimulus, but national security.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:41 am to Flats
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:45 am to frogtown
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Paid for by whom?
EVERYONE that purchases those imported goods. Not just the 1% income tax payer. Everyone. Including the drug dealer and income tax cheat.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:49 am to Jjdoc
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We have already been through this. You can jump up and down and demand we accept free trade with communist nations all day long. You can demand that we continue our march to globalism....
I am not saying that. I am saying that the taxpayers subsidized the farmers, which is true.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:51 am to GumboPot
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EVERYONE that purchases those imported goods
Good. Just want to make sure you realize that China isn't paying these tariffs. The importers first and then eventually the consumers are paying them. Progress has been made.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 9:52 am
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:52 am to Jjdoc
he hates american manufacturing jobs and loves chinese dumping.
tariffs did not affect me one iota. even wilbur ross said it COULD raise some goods a few pennies. I did not even see that. not in my wallet.
people thinking discretionary spending is the same as fed gov taxes is LOLOLOL
tariffs did not affect me one iota. even wilbur ross said it COULD raise some goods a few pennies. I did not even see that. not in my wallet.
people thinking discretionary spending is the same as fed gov taxes is LOLOLOL
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:54 am to frogtown
Agricultural subsidies have been implemented in this country for centuries. IDK how we eliminate ag subsidies without a severe interruption in food security.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:55 am to GumboPot
quote:But they didn't go up four fold in one Presidential term.
Agricultural subsidies have been implemented in this country for centuries.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:55 am to GumboPot
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We need those domestic industries for national security reasons.
And that's a legit reason for tariffs IMO. They have the exact same economic cost as crony capitalist tariffs, but the entire nation is getting something in return instead of whatever industry has the best lobbyists.
Trump's tariffs went well beyond national security.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:56 am to frogtown
You benefit yourself from subsidizing and subsidies lol.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:57 am to GumboPot
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Every tariff policy is not Smoot Hawley. It takes a nuanced approach to implement them effectively. Trump implemented them effectively to benefit the US.
They can not grasp this.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:58 am to frogtown
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I am not saying that. I am saying that the taxpayers subsidized the farmers, which is true.
You really have to specifically spell things out for them....and even then, they'll still try to create some odd narrative to keep skyscreaming.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 10:00 am
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:59 am to Jjdoc
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We have already been through this. You can jump up and down and demand we accept free trade with communist nations all day long. You can demand that we continue our march to globalism....
But the fact is, Trump's economy helped the whole nation and they did not see prices go up due to the tariffs.
Now go grab your half truth from the Chamber and their study.... I need a great laugh today
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:59 am to Jjdoc
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They can not grasp this.
you're an actual idiot. I realize I'm just beating a dead horse at this point.....but it just keeps being worth repeating.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:00 am to Jjdoc
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quote:
Every tariff policy is not Smoot Hawley. It takes a nuanced approach to implement them effectively. Trump implemented them effectively to benefit the US.
They can not grasp this.
they cannot grasp much other than the crackpipe for another hit and staying braindead.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:04 am to Fat Bastard
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he hates american manufacturing jobs and loves chinese dumping.
Not true.
I just trying to explain to some of you what actually happened even though you don't want to hear it.
I would like trade policy that doesn't result in having to do farmer bailouts.
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people thinking discretionary spending is the same as fed gov taxes i
""It all comes from China," Trump said. "We'll be taking in, over time, hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs and charges on China, and our farmers will be greatly helped."
The farm bailout is costless, Trump is arguing, because he's taking money from China and giving it to American farmers. That argument could only hold water if China were paying for the tariffs."
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 10:09 am
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:13 am to momentoftruth87
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You benefit yourself from subsidizing and subsidies lol.
I am paying for them. lol.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:13 am to Jjdoc
somebody needs to find and bump that old thread where the chinese trinket importer here got fricking destroyed on here about tariffs. shite it happened in multiple threads.
these clowns are clearly are oblivious to it
these clowns are clearly are oblivious to it
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