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re: Floyd did not die from asphyxiation
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:27 pm to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:27 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:But those don’t negate the cop’s actions that also caused in outcome that likely would not have otherwise occurred from those other variables alone. Although that’s probably why they also didn’t charge him with a higher murder charge.
Are we going to pretend there are no other variables to consider? Including drug use or pre-exisitng conditions?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:28 pm to Loserman
quote:
If you can talk. You can Breath!"
Sigh.
For many, many reasons.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:28 pm to davyjones
was the autopsy done by phone?was there a swap?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:30 pm to the808bass
quote:
the808bass
I know you *REALLY WANT* it to be asphyxiation, but what do you say to this?
"While standing outside the car, Mr. Floyd began saying and repeating that he could not breathe."
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:31 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
I just realized you might have been asking this rhetorically. Sorry for the pedantry if so.
I wasn’t. That’s a good summary. The finding of asphyxia is more based on eyewitness accounts than any specific medical finding. The closeness of being unable to breathe and unconsciousness.
The statement by Mr. Floyd that he couldn’t breathe early on could become significant.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:31 pm to Bayoutigre
Gosh I hope not. My mental picture of all such medical examinations or autopsies includes the ME/coroner eating a sandwich and resting it on the chest of the deceased at times.

Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:32 pm to TigerCruise
Uh oh
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:32 pm to bird35
quote:
I found it odd the autopsy states so surely he did not die of asphyxiation, but does not state what he died of.
I mean it says preliminary.
This was all suspect because if the cause of death was what people were assuming from video it should have quickly confirmed, right?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:33 pm to Smeg
quote:
"While standing outside the car, Mr. Floyd began saying and repeating that he could not breathe."
Say wha…?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:35 pm to Smeg
quote:Well then clearly putting a knee on his neck for nearly 10 minutes and even after he’s unconscious and bystanders are begging for them to check his pulse was the wrong option to then choose.
"While standing outside the car, Mr. Floyd began saying and repeating that he could not breathe."
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:35 pm to pwejr88
quote:
Say wha…?
it's there in that probable cause report
2nd page... 3rd full paragraph from the bottom... I quoted it on page 6
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:36 pm to Smeg
I don’t GAS what it is. I want the truth.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:36 pm to the808bass
quote:
The statement by Mr. Floyd that he couldn’t breathe early on could become significant.
Which makes keeping him prone very weird. Why would the police restrain him if he couldn’t breath before he was on the ground? That makes no sense.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:37 pm to TigerCruise
I cautioned everyone on day one and was lambasted by many.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:37 pm to buckeye_vol
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Well then clearly putting a knee on his next for nearly 10 minutes and even after he’s unconscious and bystanders are begging for them to check his pulse was the wrong option to then choose.
Not sure why people are acting like this isn’t part of the arrest.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:37 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
Why would the police restrain him if he couldn’t breath before he was on the ground
Can you really trust what a con artist says? This is akin to saying the cuffs are too tight.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:38 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
But those don’t negate the cop’s actions that also caused in outcome that likely would not have otherwise occurred from those other variables alone. Although that’s probably why they also didn’t charge him with a higher murder charge.
I have said numerous times since seeing the video of the arrest and the officer's actions, and knowing that the guy died, that it's an open and shut case. Officer guilty as hell.
If I was on a jury though, and was presented with evidence of serious underlying conditions + plus heavy drug use or intoxication, I would not be able to find intent on the part of the officer.
You can say, well if the officer didn't detain him and hold him down, he wouldn't be dead, but you could also say, if he didn't try to pass funny money, then resist arrest, he wouldn't be dead either.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:38 pm to buckeye_vol
Guess we now know what the exculpatory evidence was.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:39 pm to the808bass
quote:
I want the truth.
I don't believe this this true.
You don't want to believe what the evidence shows.
You want to evidence to show what you already believe.
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