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re: Florida refuses to bar unvaccinated students from school suffering a measles outbreak

Posted on 2/24/24 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by Doosh606
The DC
Member since Apr 2008
3237 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 2:45 pm to
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The ones with health risks are. That doesn’t mean the outbreak will be controlled, but suit yourself. It’s not about our society anymore but in most of yalls cases, everything is about you. Most of you sound like Millennials and the new generations, which is hilarious given how much you bitch about them.


My body my choice right? I'm sorry you get scared of dumb shite on the internet but I'm not giving up my rights because you're a dweeb who can't see what the medical establishment tried to do to us in 2020.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12747 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 2:56 pm to
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I made the choice to not vaccinate my kid, but I’m clearly incapable of letting them avoid getting the measles.


This is what they sound like.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125440 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 2:59 pm to
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The effort had slowly but steadily decreased trust in science and academia, and culminated during Covid, as millions of Republicans fought evidence-based responses to the pandemic.


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evidence-based responses


Lol
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39013 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 3:24 pm to
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The reason we don't do that anymore is because we have vaccines that are way safer than getting measles. Have you ever seen measles?


Not a joy. But the one thing I never would've want to had as an adult...not even leprosy or the Plague... But Smallpox.

But Measles could be vaccinated naturally with minor infection. Same with chicken pox, get it while young. I had 3 siblings and as a child 1 got chicken pox and our parents made us interact with her...I got like 1 or 2 poxs...I know it's still in my system but that is how you handled things back then.

Build up an immunity as a child before they devastate you as an adult.
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78074 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 3:32 pm to
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Remember, comrade. Vaccines prevent infection
But they don't. See the mumps outbreak at LSU a few years ago.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78074 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 3:47 pm to
What you posted...
quote:

a global vaccination effort by the WHO implemented in 1959, at the behest of the Soviet Union, and again in 1967 wiped out smallpox in 31 countries

Does not contradict what he posted...
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They are effective when low exposure levels exist. Once exposure levels are high, you can still get sick even if vaccinated because the immune system can only work so fast


People still got smallpox after vaccination. About 1 in 20. Not all vaccines are as efficacious as the small pox vaccine though. Doesn't mean they aren't vaccines.
Posted by reddy tiger
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2012
1602 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 3:55 pm to
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You are such a tool


Oh, the irony…

You’re a pawn in a game you don’t understand, being played by those smarter than yourself. They recognize you lack understanding of the sciences and that critical analysis isn’t your strength, so they feed you cherry-picked bullshite that doesn’t reflect the greater whole of reality. Because they know you’re stupid. And you fall for it. And then they vote for tax cuts for their donors.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52151 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 4:08 pm to
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If your kids are vaxxed against measles, then why would you care if someone else has it?

We care because irresponsible adults are risking their children’s health. It’s the same reason we care if they use seatbelts for their children.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 4:08 pm to
Good less anti vaxers coming right up then
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
11789 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 4:38 pm to
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Absolutely miserable experience, and it took me a month to finally get my strength back.
Wonderful way to lose weight, BTW.


Same here. For a week I just had what I thought was a horrible flu. I took so much ibuprofen for my fever I ended up messing my stomach up and couldn't swallow. I literally couldn't eat anything for 3 days and could barely drink water. I was finally getting over it and the second week is when the rash came. I went back to the Dr and he was so astonished I actually had the measles he brought the whole damn office in to look at me
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78246 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 4:41 pm to
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If your kids are vaxxed against measles, then why would you care if someone else has it?


I mean if my kid was fire proof i’d still look sideways at the state giving parents the option to send their kids into a school that’s on fire.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125440 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 5:11 pm to
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are risking their children’s health.


They’re really not. And you don’t really care.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5946 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 5:13 pm to


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Did you know that some people who got the polio vaccine still got polio?


The Salk Polio vaccine was one of the greatest achievements of modern medicine. Polio was a huge problem worldwide until the discovery of the vaccine that reduced polio infection by 99%+ worldwide. It was truly a miracle vaccine.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14559 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 5:21 pm to
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We care because irresponsible adults are risking their children’s health. It’s the same reason we care if they use seatbelts for their children.


Exactly what ALL you Vax crazies said about Covid....
then, and now, what parents do with their children is NONE of your business. Parents can do as they please, and if it is the opposite of what YOU think is right, it doesn't make them bad parents. You probably side with the State of Idaho taking a trans kid from its "irresponsible" parents who would not give it hormones before 18....their kid, THEIR CHOICE
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154593 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 5:25 pm to
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We care because irresponsible adults are risking their children’s health. It’s the same reason we care if they use seatbelts for their children.


Except we don’t know if any parents did that.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125440 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 5:36 pm to
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Polio was a huge problem worldwide until the discovery of the vaccine that reduced polio infection by 99%+ worldwide.


What other contributing factors have helped reduce the global prevalence of polio? Just the vaccine?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11511 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 5:39 pm to
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But Measles could be vaccinated naturally with minor infection.


It could, but to do so, you'd accepting more childhood deaths and more non-lethal complications like encephalitis which can leave kids with brain damage. It would be terrible health policy to do it and no developing country in the world has chosen to avoid vaccination when they could feasibly adopt it. MMR vaccine has saved many millions of lives.

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43908 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 6:11 pm to
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MMR vax's were required before my kids could go to school. What am I missing?




A British doctor in the 1990s faked a bunch of data to show a link between autism and the MMR vaccine (that study has since been retracted and the doctor's license to practice medicine was revoked). Anti-vaccine idiots ran with it. Some states relaxed their MMR vaccine requirements. Now measles is back thanks to some parents refusing the MMR vaccine and the massive number of illegal immigrant children whose vaccination status is unknown.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78246 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 6:29 pm to
I mean you can look at polio deaths and cases plummet in the US as the rolled out the vaccine.

Maybe they also also fixed all of america’s sanitation’s problems everywhere at the same time
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13266 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:03 pm to
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Vaccines WERE ALWAYS the go-to prior to the CDC changing the definition to the word "vaccine" right in the middle of the hoaxed covid pandemic


Where did I say anything different? Vaccines are great in many cases like chicken pox, measles, mumps, etc. They also are not fool proof and what you cited requires herd immunity. If not enough people are vaccinated like you are seeing now, the virus can spread and if in high enough virulent counts infect even those with immunity. It will still be mild for those vaccinated but will allow the spread.

The issue now is parents of healthy kids that would be good to take vaccines refusing them. That is allowing many of these viruses to come back and then potentially mutating reducing the efficacy of the vaccines already out there.

This isn’t Covid and doesn’t mutate nearly as quickly, but the point is simply that a true vaccine imparts resistance not an impenetrable shield.
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