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re: Florida principal reassigned after he told parent he 'can't say the Holocaust is a factual
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:24 pm to BuckyCheese
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:24 pm to BuckyCheese
Are you asserting people hate the Jews because they talk too much about the Holocaust?
If so, does any of that vitriol come from a sense of the Jews stealing victimhood that the “haters” wish to have for themselves?
If so, does any of that vitriol come from a sense of the Jews stealing victimhood that the “haters” wish to have for themselves?
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:25 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
I will reply just this once:
1. My paternal grandfather lost over half his family in concentration camps. The family members came mostly from northern Moldova, an area called Bukovina.
2. My father wore an armband with the Jewish star, went to a separate school just for Jews, and had to clean a warehouse in which there were human bodies hung on meat hooks.
3. My father's recollections were recorded and are now part of the large collection of recordings owned by the Holocaust Museum in DC. Go listen if you doubt!
I don't give a rat's a-- how many millions of people were killed. We're talking MILLIONS! Of people! All kinds of people. Gays, Catholics, gypsies, Jews, retarded people.
1. My paternal grandfather lost over half his family in concentration camps. The family members came mostly from northern Moldova, an area called Bukovina.
2. My father wore an armband with the Jewish star, went to a separate school just for Jews, and had to clean a warehouse in which there were human bodies hung on meat hooks.
3. My father's recollections were recorded and are now part of the large collection of recordings owned by the Holocaust Museum in DC. Go listen if you doubt!
I don't give a rat's a-- how many millions of people were killed. We're talking MILLIONS! Of people! All kinds of people. Gays, Catholics, gypsies, Jews, retarded people.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:34 pm to 14&Counting
quote:I hope he doesn't. I am rather enjoying this. Plus, it is one of the few topics I am enjoying and agreeing with 808's posts.
Please stop posting. You are embarrassing yourself
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:36 pm to conservativewifeymom
quote:
1. My paternal grandfather lost over half his family in concentration camps. The family members came mostly from northern Moldova, an area called Bukovina.
"but were they Death Camps?" - airlinehwypanhandler
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:37 pm to mmcgrath
Don't throw the baby out with the bath water
You're proving his point if you're denying a widely-recognized distinction on account of other legitimately objectionable views he may hold
You're proving his point if you're denying a widely-recognized distinction on account of other legitimately objectionable views he may hold
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:39 pm to conservativewifeymom
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:39 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
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Likewise there are still people who believe urban legends like the whole "nazis turned jews into lampshades and soap" stories
What does this have to do with the principal in the op peddling in falsehoods and displaying the also taboo subject of black hatred of Jews?
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:41 pm to Pettifogger
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Dachau didn't have immediate selections for people to be sent to the gas chambers. Because Dachau never had operating gas chambers, as I recall.
IIRC , the chambers were operable, and may have been "tested", but were not fully put into use.
However, there were over 30,000 documented deaths there, and their website says 41,000. I remember seeing the wall used by the firing squads and seeing the mass graves of those buried on site. It was pretty profound.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:43 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
quote:
A big example of this are people who claim their grandfather liberated death camps.
This is just a lie. My UNCLE (not grandfather) liberated Dachau where over 40,000 people were killed. Why are you splitting hairs over what is, or what isn't, a "death camp?"
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:44 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
quote:
Neither of which were death camps
Clearly it was a Spa & Resort for Jews and Russian soldiers?
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:46 pm to the808bass
quote:
Were they resort camps?
They must've been like the resorts set up in the Catskills and Poconos for Jewish people from New York City. Lovely in the fall and spring.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:49 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
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What I am trying to say is that there were camps built specifically to kill jews. Those were in Poland.
Deaths happened in the Germany camps but the camps were not built for the purpose of mass extermination.
Historians designate the differences between concentration camps and death camps for a reason.
I find the distinction to be crap.
One type of camp was much more efficient at killing people, the the other camps killed lots of people as well.
To call a camp where people were literally worked to death and"only" 60,000 people died a work camp is really kinda awful. In just about any other period of time a camp that killed that many people over that short of time are called death camps.
But because the Nazis had much more efficient death camps doesn't mean the first weren't. They were death camps. They just wanted to work you to death.
Oh wow. The one camp only killed 2000 people a month. So we will call that a work camp. Sounds kinda iffy to me.
The Nazis definitely made that distinction. But they all were death camps. Some were just much more efficient at it.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:53 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
"but were they Death Camps?" - airlinehwypanhandler
"What difference does it make!" - Hillary Clinton
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:56 pm to thetempleowl
That's an emotional response IMO. Not an unreasonable one, to be fair.
But the fact remains that there is a historical reason to distinguish Dachau from Treblinka. Sure, Nazi sympathizers may have their reasons for downplaying concentration camps, but are we to believe the historians and academics that have long recognized the difference are somehow doing the same? I don't think so.
And it wasn't just that Dachau was less efficient at killing. Its purpose was, at least at some points during the Holocaust, quite different from Treblinka or Belzec.
But the fact remains that there is a historical reason to distinguish Dachau from Treblinka. Sure, Nazi sympathizers may have their reasons for downplaying concentration camps, but are we to believe the historians and academics that have long recognized the difference are somehow doing the same? I don't think so.
And it wasn't just that Dachau was less efficient at killing. Its purpose was, at least at some points during the Holocaust, quite different from Treblinka or Belzec.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:57 pm to swamplynx
I mean if you get caught lying I guess it makes up sense to double down.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:59 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
quote:
For me, I think the 6 million figure for the death toll is exaggerated.
The historical data indicates that the 6 million number is impossible.
Something happened that was terrible but there are definitely details about what happened that are incorrect. Truth doesn't matter on these emotional triggering events.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 6:01 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
That's an emotional response IMO. Not an unreasonable one, to be fair. But the fact remains that there is a historical reason to distinguish Dachau from Treblinka. Sure, Nazi sympathizers may have their reasons for downplaying concentration camps, but are we to believe the historians and academics that have long recognized the difference are somehow doing the same? I don't think so. And it wasn't just that Dachau was less efficient at killing. Its purpose was, at least at some points during the Holocaust, quite different from Treblinka or Belzec.
To get back to the op, the principal wasn’t going for historical accuracy. He claimed that since some parents don’t believe the holocaust occurred, the school couldn’t teach it as fact. That’s an absurd position for the obvious anti Semite to take.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 6:01 pm to BIGFOOD
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Ok AOC. I don't care what you call them, concentration, death or labor camps...they didn't go there for an education or leisure, they went there to die.
The AOC reference is ironic. This post screams about being morally right is more important than being factually right.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 6:01 pm to notsince98
quote:
Something happened that was terrible
Yeah, what was terrible was what the globalist bolsheviks did in genociding 60 million.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 6:02 pm to conservativewifeymom
quote:
was reassigned to an unspecified new position
odds are good he now works at school boards HR dept and is in charge of hiring new teachers and firing any conservative teachers they can find.
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