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re: Florida principal reassigned after he told parent he 'can't say the Holocaust is a factual
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:08 pm to BIGFOOD
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:08 pm to BIGFOOD
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Ok AOC. I don't care what you call them, concentration, death or labor camps...they didn't go there for an education or leisure, they went there to die.
It's funny how you guys are proving my point.
The camps in Germany, people were sent there to work or to be held in internment.
They were sent to the camps in Poland to die.
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:09 pm to zatetic
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Well after the Soviet Union collapsed they changed all the numbers. To figure up the 6 million figure you had 4 million jews die at auchwitz. Now it says 900,000 jews died there. Almost all the other "death" camps have far less, like majdanek being two million now is 78,000. It is still illegal to point out that the death camp numbers add up to nowhere near 6 million in a lot of countries in Europe though.
Not everyone was killed at death camps either NY Times states that a third of the Jews killed were killed outside of the camps.
You're dense af and need to stay off of 4chan
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:09 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
quote:We found Cookie Monster!quote:None of those were death camps
American forces liberated concentration camps including Buchenwald, Dora-Mittelbau, Flossenbürg, Dachau, and Mauthausen
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:09 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
What’s funny is you don’t have a point.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:11 pm to the808bass
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What’s your estimate?
I’d guess there’s a 90% chance you won’t give one.
I don't know. The number has changed so many times throughout history. The original number was 4 million.
Cremating a body takes a long, long time to the point where it wouldn't be an efficient way to dispose of dead bodies. It would take too long to cremate 6 million bodies in the span of time that the camps operated. Eventually they would just have to be buried. The mass graves that have been found have not had enough bodies to meet the 6 million mark.
I think its probably closer to 3 million. I also believe at some point the Germans realized gassing was inefficient and time consuming and combined with the fact that supply lines were being cut, it was just easier to let the jews in the camps starve to death or die from disease and redirect the rationed supplies to the nazis.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:12 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
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I think its probably closer to 3 million.
Let’s say it’s just 1.5M. What does that change? Really?
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:12 pm to the808bass
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What’s funny is you don’t have a point.
My point is that lies about the holocaust are propgated because people are so afraid of being called an anti semite or nazi sympathizer.
The fact that we have posters in this thread calling Dachau and Buchenwald death camps, when they weren't(they were all in Poland) proves my point.
Likewise there are still people who believe urban legends like the whole "nazis turned jews into lampshades and soap" stories.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:13 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
I don't understand the point of this argument as it relates to the original post? This principle seem to deny it even happened and I feel somewhat confident that whether the number is 3 million or six million either qualifies as "happened"
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:13 pm to the808bass
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Let’s say it’s just 1.5M. What does that change? Really?
I'll turn the tables. Why exaggerate? What is there to be gained by doubling or quadrupling the actual death toll?
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:14 pm to ShortyRob
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I don't understand the point of this argument as it relates to the original post? This principle seem to deny it even happened and I feel somewhat confident that whether the number is 3 million or six million either qualifies as "happened"
Anyone who says it didn't happen is a moron. But because people are so afraid of being called a denier, people will accept and believe anything about the holocaust even if its not true.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:16 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
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The fact that we have posters in this thread calling Dachau and Buchenwald death camps, when they weren't(they were all in Poland) proves my point.
It doesn’t prove anything other than you’re weird. A concentration camp where 50,000 people died from malnutrition isn’t qualitatively different from a “death camp” where 200,000 people died. That’s a thing you made up in your mind.
quote:Yeah. People believe Thomas Jefferson had a kid with Sally Hemings still. People believe the moon landing was faked. People believe the earth is flat. Some people believe there’s a huge difference between gassing people and starving them to death. Lots of people are stupid.
people who believe urban legends
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:17 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
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Anyone who says it didn't happen is a moron. But because people are so afraid of being called a denier, people will accept and believe anything about the holocaust even if its not true.
Please stop posting. You are embarrassing yourself
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:17 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
quote:
What is there to be gained by doubling or quadrupling the actual death toll?
Does the answer have anything to do with jet fuel and steel beams?
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:19 pm to the808bass
Not denying the Holocaust, but I am tired of the Jews playing this card.
And I bet they play it just as long as the blacks play the slave card.
And I bet they play it just as long as the blacks play the slave card.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:19 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
quote:
It's funny how you guys are proving my point.
The camps in Germany, people were sent there to work or to be held in internment.
They were sent to the camps in Poland to die.
I don't agree with your overall sentiment but you're right on this
The distinction between extermination camps and concentration camps is widely recognized by historians, I believe. Dachau didn't have immediate selections for people to be sent to the gas chambers. Because Dachau never had operating gas chambers, as I recall.
Of course, sensible people can recognize this distinction while still acknowledging that death at many of the concentration camps was certainly welcomed and often imposed by the Nazis.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:20 pm to BuckyCheese
Eh. There’s plenty of actual anti-Semitic sentiment out there. Usually people whining around the margins hate them some Jews and just don’t have the balls to say it.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:21 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
I don't agree with your overall sentiment but you're right on this
The distinction between extermination camps and concentration camps is widely recognized by historians, I believe. Dachau didn't have immediate selections for people to be sent to the gas chambers. Because Dachau never had operating gas chambers, as I recall.
Of course, sensible people can recognize this distinction while still acknowledging that death at many of the concentration camps was certainly welcomed and often imposed by the Nazis.
At least someone gets it
What I am trying to say is that there were camps built specifically to kill jews. Those were in Poland.
Deaths happened in the Germany camps but the camps were not built for the purpose of mass extermination.
Historians designate the differences between concentration camps and death camps for a reason.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:22 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
So no one in a concentration camp was sent to a death camp?
If not, what exactly is the distinction we need to grasp?
If not, what exactly is the distinction we need to grasp?
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:23 pm to the808bass
quote:
There’s plenty of actual anti-Semitic sentiment out there.
Sure. So what?
Do you think none of that comes from their "special status" due to the Holocaust?
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:24 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
quote:Did they drink from toilets?
There were no mass executions at Buchenwald. The deaths there were from starvation or disease. There were no gas chambers or other forms of mass killings there.
All of the camps where mass executions took place existed in Poland.
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