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re: Fleming and Letlow Debate

Posted on 5/5/26 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3585 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

Obviously Letlow’s conservative…at this point in life with all the insanity happening around Trump does anyone really—I mean really—think he wouldn’t do his homework on who he’s endorsing for a U.S. Senate race that personally matters to him?


Welll we know Trump doesn’t do the research hence his multiple horrible endorsements. He’s a deal maker and try’s to make deals with everything. She was a compromise with Thune and the GOP club losers. Also before he knew Fleming was in.


quote:

Obviously Letlow’s conservative


The hell she is. Her voting record is as bad or worse than Cassidy depending on which rating service you look at. She’s voted for terrible things and said dumber stuff which if her excuses are to be believed, specifically her excuse for the DEI comments) it just means she’s spineless and has no principles.

I’m assuming you’re a relative or a family friend because you’ve given zero HONEST reasons for voting for her. Name one thing she’s done?
Posted by Deep Fried Gravy
Member since Oct 2023
195 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 5:31 pm to
Lame. Maybe the Senate isn’t the right place for Fleming if he can’t find a way through that political hurdle.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10665 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

I have not seen one comment on what people like about Fleming


I can answer that one. Fleming is the only real conservative Republican in the race. That’s why I gave him my vote.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33593 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 6:32 pm to
Voted for Fleming this afternoon.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22940 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

Please expound on when he voted against any border walls?



I got that from the ad that is running but here is a write up of Fleming regarding immigration by Louisiana Policy Review which is a LA based conservative think tank.

https://www.louisianapolicyreview.com/post/fleming-s-immigration-record-undercuts-trump-s-america-first-agenda

quote:

Fleming’s Immigration Record Undercuts Trump’s America First Agenda
Writer: Staff @ LPR
Staff @ LPR
Apr 5
3 min read

President Donald Trump didn’t just talk about border security. He made it the defining issue of modern American politics.


Secure the border. Build the wall. Enforce the law. Put American workers first.


That became the standard Republican voters now expect from anyone asking for their support.


That’s why a new ad in Louisiana’s U.S. Senate race is getting so much attention. The ad highlights past comments from State Treasurer John Fleming, including a line that is already raising eyebrows: “We don’t have enough illegal aliens… why not bus them across the border?” In a Republican primary, that’s not just a bad line. It’s a serious red flag.

But the bigger issue isn’t just what was said. It’s what was done.


When you look at Fleming’s record in Congress, a clear pattern emerges.


Time and again, he supported policies that expanded immigration or increased the amount of foreign labor brought into the U.S.. In 2011, he backed legislation that removed per-country caps on employment-based green cards, a change that would speed up the flow of foreign workers into the United States. In 2012, he voted twice for the STEM Jobs Act, which created 55,000 green cards for foreign workers in technical fields.


At a time when many Americans were struggling in the aftermath of the recession, John Fleming voted to give high-paying, skilled jobs to foreigners.


Expanding high-skilled immigration may sound technical in Washington, but in practice it increases competition for jobs, wages, and opportunities — especially in fields that are supposed to be pathways to upward mobility for American workers.


Then in 2015, Fleming voted to fund Obama's Department of Homeland Security without provisions to block the Democrats' amnesty policies. That decision effectively allowed those policies to continue without using Congress’s most powerful leverage point — the power of the purse — to stop them.


These are not isolated votes or one-off decisions. They form a consistent record. A record of supporting increased immigration flows and declining to take hard-line positions when it mattered most in Washington.


That stands in direct contrast to the approach President Trump brought to the issue. Trump didn’t hedge or recalibrate based on political convenience. He made it clear that immigration policy should serve American workers first, not global labor markets. That clarity is why the issue still resonates so strongly with Republican voters today.


And it’s why Fleming’s record matters now more than ever.


Because this race is not about who can say the right thing in a campaign ad. It’s about who actually stood for those principles when they had the chance. When voters see a candidate who supported expanding green cards, declined to use federal funding to challenge executive amnesty, and is now trying to position himself as a border hawk, it raises a fundamental question about consistency.


Louisiana voters are not confused about what they want on immigration. They want strong borders, enforced laws, and a system that prioritizes American workers. They are not looking for candidates who are trying to explain away past votes or reinterpret their record to match the current political moment.


They are looking for conviction. They are looking for clarity. And they are looking for leadership that has been consistent all along.


At the end of the day, this issue is not complicated.


You either fought for policies that put American workers first, or you didn’t.


And in this race, the record speaks for itself.




I might add that back in Oct 2025 this group ran a summary article on the Senate candidates at the time and Letlow was not one of them. Fleming was and they said his campaign was highlighting his time working in the Trump WH Admin but says something is wrong because Trump has not endorsed him or even mentioned him once... This was back 7 months ago.



Posted by TigerAllNightLong
Member since Jul 2023
1141 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:40 pm to
Fleming is senile.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10665 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:45 pm to
Trump’s people offered Fleming whatever he wanted if would drop out of the race for Letlow. Fleming said no because he’s currently the leader in the race.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
7044 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

repeating the fact that DJT endorsed her,

And I still don’t know why he did. I already voted for Fleming
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25227 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:54 pm to
I really have issues with all the REP candidates.....Fleming is the best of the worst....
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14387 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

I support Flemming for the following reasons.

Thanks Novastar.
I’m ABC as I’ve already written.

I hope it comes down to Fleming and Letlow. I only know that Letlow was endorsed by Trump and neither are Cassidy.

I want to know why I should or shouldn’t vote for either.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22940 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

Fleming said no because he’s currently the leader in the race.


Latest poll has Fleming @ 28 and Letlow @ 27… Cassidy @ 20
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22940 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

And I still don’t know why he did. I already voted for Fleming


He has actually endorsed her twice. Endorsed her for Congress as well.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16401 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:41 pm to
Letlow is a bad option and Fleming is worse

Cassidy is the best we got
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59239 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

That edited clip was from 2008, one of his first appearances when running for Congress. If you see his full comments he corrected himself and said he meant migrant workers.


Desperation is when a candidate has to purposely take things out of context in order to have a point. That she uses that is a big strike against her for me.
Posted by Deep Fried Gravy
Member since Oct 2023
195 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:14 pm to
Amateur. You misspelled his name. Look here’s the deal: Fleming is awkward. You’re on board with him and that’s okay.





You’re probably gay.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59239 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

As for the DEI shite, She was a finalist in 2020 for the LaTech President position. Nobody in academic admin prior to 2025 could survive without some support for DEI at colleges and universities.


That and her purposely taking Fleming's comments about migrant workers out of context in order to attempt to have some rhetorical ground speaks to a lack of integrity.

Fleming gets my vote.
Posted by Deep Fried Gravy
Member since Oct 2023
195 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

He has actually endorsed her twice.


That doesn’t matter to Fleming’s Fellas. They do what Daddy Bill tells them to do.
Posted by Kreg Jennings
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2007
3967 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:20 pm to
Watched bits and pieces. No one ran away with it. But I’d give the edge to Letlow.

Fleming sounded like a real buffoon at times. Didn’t realize that he went to Ole Miss. Given that is his Alma mater….that tracks.
Posted by LeGrosChat
Bangladesh
Member since Feb 2016
660 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:29 pm to
Heard Fleming speak years ago when he was a US congressman and said there was not one good government program. Acting like a super conservative but he has been nothing but a government bureaucrat in both state and federal government. Why do we let these guys run on our dime. He is the state Treasurer now— is it taking sick leave or unpaid leave to do all this campaigning??? Leaching off the government because there are no good government programs!
Posted by rented mule
Member since Sep 2005
2780 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:31 pm to
quote:


I got that from the ad that is running


So you really have no idea what you're talking about.

quote:

quote:
Fleming’s Immigration Record Undercuts Trump’s America First Agenda
Writer: Staff @ LPR
Staff @ LPR
Apr 5
3 min read

President Donald Trump didn’t just talk about border security. He made it the defining issue of modern American politics.


Secure the border. Build the wall. Enforce the law. Put American workers first.


That became the standard Republican voters now expect from anyone asking for their support.


That’s why a new ad in Louisiana’s U.S. Senate race is getting so much attention. The ad highlights past comments from State Treasurer John Fleming, including a line that is already raising eyebrows: “We don’t have enough illegal aliens… why not bus them across the border?” In a Republican primary, that’s not just a bad line. It’s a serious red flag.

But the bigger issue isn’t just what was said. It’s what was done.


When you look at Fleming’s record in Congress, a clear pattern emerges.


Time and again, he supported policies that expanded immigration or increased the amount of foreign labor brought into the U.S.. In 2011, he backed legislation that removed per-country caps on employment-based green cards, a change that would speed up the flow of foreign workers into the United States. In 2012, he voted twice for the STEM Jobs Act, which created 55,000 green cards for foreign workers in technical fields.


At a time when many Americans were struggling in the aftermath of the recession, John Fleming voted to give high-paying, skilled jobs to foreigners.


Expanding high-skilled immigration may sound technical in Washington, but in practice it increases competition for jobs, wages, and opportunities — especially in fields that are supposed to be pathways to upward mobility for American workers.


Then in 2015, Fleming voted to fund Obama's Department of Homeland Security without provisions to block the Democrats' amnesty policies. That decision effectively allowed those policies to continue without using Congress’s most powerful leverage point — the power of the purse — to stop them.


These are not isolated votes or one-off decisions. They form a consistent record. A record of supporting increased immigration flows and declining to take hard-line positions when it mattered most in Washington.


That stands in direct contrast to the approach President Trump brought to the issue. Trump didn’t hedge or recalibrate based on political convenience. He made it clear that immigration policy should serve American workers first, not global labor markets. That clarity is why the issue still resonates so strongly with Republican voters today.


And it’s why Fleming’s record matters now more than ever.


Because this race is not about who can say the right thing in a campaign ad. It’s about who actually stood for those principles when they had the chance. When voters see a candidate who supported expanding green cards, declined to use federal funding to challenge executive amnesty, and is now trying to position himself as a border hawk, it raises a fundamental question about consistency.


Louisiana voters are not confused about what they want on immigration. They want strong borders, enforced laws, and a system that prioritizes American workers. They are not looking for candidates who are trying to explain away past votes or reinterpret their record to match the current political moment.


They are looking for conviction. They are looking for clarity. And they are looking for leadership that has been consistent all along.


At the end of the day, this issue is not complicated.


You either fought for policies that put American workers first, or you didn’t.


And in this race, the record speaks for itself.


In all of that thinly veiled political ad, there's a lot about his stances on legal immigration policies, but where is the info about Fleming voting against border walls?
Hint: it isnt there because Fleming was never in a position to vote on the issue one way or another. He was in office until the beginning of 2017, he was leaving office as Trump was coming in. You believed a lie. The Letlow camp just threw out absolute made up BS because they know she has nothing substantive about herself to run .
This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 9:46 pm
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