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re: FL Veteran Fatally Shot in Broad Daylight Ambush During Dispute Over Parking Spot
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:07 am to the808bass
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:07 am to the808bass
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I would argue she was improperly exhibiting a firearm prior to shooting him.
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:08 am to NC_Tigah
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Well, one could argue that if a woman is holding a pistol, and facing down a physically superior threat, that if she allowed the threatening individual to get close enough to take her weapon, she would have been risking those things.
She loses that argument when she exits the vehicle with the gun in hand. She can’t reasonably claim that she feared for her life when she chose to get out of the vehicle to engage the man.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:10 am to NC_Tigah
You could make a lot of arguments.
I think they fall short of using deadly force. SYG includes a provision for responding to non-deadly force with non-deadly force. The response must be proportional to the threat.
She should have stayed in her car. She would’ve had more legal protection there.
Also, morally and rationally, she shouldn’t have escalated a verbal argument (same for him).
I think they fall short of using deadly force. SYG includes a provision for responding to non-deadly force with non-deadly force. The response must be proportional to the threat.
She should have stayed in her car. She would’ve had more legal protection there.
Also, morally and rationally, she shouldn’t have escalated a verbal argument (same for him).
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:14 am to OscarTheGrouch
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Stay strapped fellas
Agree with this. However, strapped or not I’m not getting in a gun battle with some random over a parking spot. Arguably the most important part of having a gun is knowing when not to pull it out. Dude is a moron for advancing and flexing on a woman pointing one at him. Had plenty of opportunities to just walk away.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:16 am to wookalar1013
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Arguably the most important part of having a gun is knowing when not to pull it out.
Dude just got arrested for killing a guy in a road rage incident in St. Louis. Brake checked him and then pulled off the highway. When he got punched, he shot the guy.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:17 am to jrodLSUke
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She loses that argument when she exits the vehicle with the gun in hand. She can’t reasonably claim that she feared for her life when she chose to get out of the vehicle to engage the man.
Was he present when she got out?
The article made it sound like she got out and waited for him.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:20 am to theronswanson
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he aggressively comes at her
Mmmm, I don't know about that. I wouldn't call it aggressive. He seemed to stay a few feet away from her from what I saw. Anyway, it is all around dumb, and on her part... she going to jail.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:20 am to wookalar1013
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Dude is a moron for advancing and flexing on a woman pointing one at him. Had plenty of opportunities to just walk away.
I kind of agree with this.
Hopefully the EBT community sets up shop at the court house again, like they did with the last gangbanger. I want to hear them cry and defend another murderer.
Caucasian families need to better educate themselves about being near them. They need to have their version of "the talk".
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:22 am to Nurbis
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Where in the video do you see her at risk of imminent death or great bodily harm?
When he closes the distance between them in a rapid manner
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:24 am to blueboy
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We're in a race war but only one side is fighting.
Once the second side figures out the fighting has started, it may end quickly.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:37 am to the808bass
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Dude just got arrested for killing a guy in a road rage incident in St. Louis. Brake checked him and then pulled off the highway. When he got punched, he shot the guy.
I live right around there and take that Winghaven exit all the time. Crazy and stupid situation. Violence has been normalized in our society more than at any other point i can remember. No impulse control and no sense of empathy or a moral compass.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 10:37 am
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:37 am to theronswanson
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there with her pistol and he aggressively comes at her. This is a clear stand your ground case and this woman should not face any criminal charges. She has NO duty to retreat and is exercising her 2A rights. Race has nothing to do with this and it would be a travesty for this woman to be prosecuted. Florida is a state that supports the Second Amendment and the right to defend yourself, which is all this woman was doing.
True however stand your ground means stand your ground where you are standing. If you can retreat to a vehicle and then return with a weapon, that’s not justification for stand your ground. Stand your ground means more or less you don’t have to wait for the first punch. But her retreating to her car and coming back with the gun rather then avoiding the situation would make this a a charge in my mind.
I have t seen the video and not blindly defending one side. Just saying what I see it as.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:38 am to Beessnax
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if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity
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790.10 Improper exhibition of dangerous weapons or firearms.—If any person having or carrying any dirk, sword, sword cane, firearm, electric weapon or device, or other weapon shall, in the presence of one or more persons, exhibit the same in a rude, careless, angry, or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense, the person so offending shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree
She brought the firearm to the altercation to intimidate the victim. She relinquished her right to stand her ground when she is the instigator and attempted to use the weapon as her means of intimidation.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:39 am to UptownJoeBrown
I understand the point you're making and I would have walked away also, but is that white car his? If so, he might be not approaching her but simply trying to get in his car and get out of there (I'm just trying to understand his mind set at the moment).
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:50 am to jimmy the leg
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Was he present when she got out?
The article made it sound like she got out and waited for him.
Yea, they had words and then she got out of her car with her phone and a gun and kind of waited on him.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:55 am to Beessnax
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That's directly from the law.
You aren’t comprehending it well.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:58 am to Beessnax
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That's directly from the law.
Good luck proving that. Damn cell phones are getting in the way of narratives.
Its ironic that some left wingers are now calling for the removal of body cams on police. Wonder why?
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 10:59 am
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:59 am to Night Vision
Maybe he should have walked away like she told him, IDK. If I'm unarmed and someone is pointing a gun at me telling me to walk away I'm going to run away.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:02 am to 4Bagger
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Maybe he should have walked away like she told him, IDK. If I'm unarmed and someone is pointing a gun at me telling me to walk away I'm going to run away.
Agreed
He helped in his own demise by association.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:02 am to Beessnax
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Regardless of color, she has clear justification that she was afraid of him.
I think it depends on a lot of facts, of course. But if she drew out a gun before there was ny reasonable threat of death then she forefeits a stand your ground defense. She will have had a duty to attempt to leave/walk away.
There is a chance he did or said something that would cause a reasonable person to fear for their life and get a weapon, but it is hard to think of what that could be in the situation as we know and see it.
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