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re: Federal Judge Reverses Biden-Era Rule That Barred Medical Debt From Credit Reports

Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:41 pm to
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You shouldn’t be punished if you want to buy a car or a house because you got cancer and it’s taking you awhile to pay the bills.
Its not “punishment”. If you can’t pay your bill, it’s irresponsible and reckless to add more debt you cannot pay.

Describing personal responsibility as “punishment” is something g a childish teenager would come up with.

So if you want to play emo…. Why should the lender be “punished” with the cancer patients bad debt? What did they do to deserve it?
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 12:43 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98251 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:46 pm to
Yeah lifes not fair dwi
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:47 pm to
How about the root problem where the MEDICAL INDUSTRY PREYS ON AMERICANS!

I’ve been paying my insurance for employees for years & I know for myself & family, $2800 month.

Then I have a couple of surgeries and they hit you with a $60,000 surgery that took an hour for a torn bicep, then the insurance company hits me with a 10-20% supplemental bill.

The medical industry causes tons of bankruptcies, so STFU Keltic as you are living in a bubble.

Med bills should not be on credit reports, PERIOD!
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43927 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:49 pm to
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The CFPB needs to go. A bunch of bureaucrats are enacting and enforcing laws when no one elected them to do so.

Chevron Deference being struck down took care of that. It's now up to the lower courts to enforce it.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:49 pm to
Yeah, just be a slave to the system and they are so nice that they finance the it frickery over the life of your life.

Frick this entire medical system. Trump has not addressed this at all.

People are getting taxed to death
Pharma is killing us
Agriculture is poisoning us
Med insurance is a joke


This entire country sucks!
Posted by toosleaux
Stuck in Baton Rouge traffic
Member since Dec 2007
9484 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:51 pm to
I guess this can be one of the few Biden-era rules I actually agree with. The medical machine in this country is a travesty and destroys people's lives with unrealistic costs. People don't purposely overextend themselves with medical costs.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11393 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:59 pm to
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But a lender needs to know the risk of the borrower paying back a loan. If medical debts put the risk of default of a loan up, then the lender needs to charge a rate on the loan that offsets the risk. Its not the lenders fault that a borrower has medical debts.....


Wouldn't the borrowers history of paying back loans be a better measure than unintended medical debt?

No one misses a house or car payment due to medical debt, because healthcare can't be repossessed. Healthcare debt is a poor indicator of a person's ability and willingness to pay back a loan they choose to take out.

As another poster mentioned, medical debt collectors will get off your back as long as you are paying something each month. It's not treated like other debt when paying, so why treat it like other debt for reporting?

Preventing someone from getting a car or house loan because they had a medical emergency is dumb. It's harmful to the middle class which makes it harmful to America.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28544 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:05 pm to
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Stupidity “Fairness” in a credit transaction goes both ways. It is entirely unfair if the creditor is barred from knowing the customer is already deeply in debt.



Price gouging in emergency situations is generally frowned on.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:19 pm to
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Price gouging in emergency situations is generally frowned on.
Borrowing money when heavily in debt already isn't an "emergency". It irresponsibility.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13194 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:23 pm to
Not asking for fair, just common sense.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28544 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:24 pm to
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Borrowing money when heavily in debt already isn't an "emergency". It irresponsibility.



A moderately priced house and vehicle are more necessity than luxury.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
3194 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:24 pm to
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Physicians and hospitals are fricking criminal


Hospital systems and insurance carriers, yes.

Physicians at the individual level, debatable.

In many ways, they’re victimized by the other two as much as the patient is.

I think people overestimate the median physician income. It’s not very high, particularly considering they don’t start earning until they’re in their 30s.

The ones who do make a lot typically make most of it from business operations; their MD/practicing of medicine is probably less than a 3rd of their income.

Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:27 pm to
I actually think this was a good thing and we should codify it. Shame the cfpb didn't have authority for it
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13292 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:27 pm to
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CFPB


Brainchild of Pocahontas no good. Make Americans irresponsible. Want to give away whitey's wampum to other tribes
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14705 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:29 pm to
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This entire country sucks!

So, when are you moving to one that sucks less? Surely you are, what with this "entire country sucking" and all that.
Posted by Born to be a Tiger1
Somewhere lost in Texas
Member since Jan 2018
859 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:58 pm to
Looks like Jerome is going to lower interest rates soon. The left is trying to get out in front of the lower rates. By adding this metric there will be people who will not be able to get a loan and blame OMB.

This judge is a Trump opponent, but we think some are compromised.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
13253 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 2:07 pm to
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So, when are you moving to one that sucks less? Surely you are, what with this "entire country sucking" and all that.



I don't really care for this line of thinking because often the person being critical of this country is not wrong and all the "love it or leave it" person is doing is carrying water for negative forces actively undermining the stability of this nation.

My answer to your question would be that I'd rather stay and make this country greater.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 2:09 pm to
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A moderately priced house and vehicle are more necessity than luxury.
Nope. And still not the lender’s nor the governments job to supply them.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 2:10 pm to
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Physicians and hospitals are fricking criminal..absolute theft...
Easy solution Never go to them.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 2:10 pm to
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If you can’t pay your bill, it’s irresponsible and reckless to add more debt you cannot pay.


I understand your point, but overpriced medical care for catastrophic injuries isn't just "Welp, I'm gonna rack up a ton of debt for 2 new cars, an RV, 3 side by sides and 4 vacations to Disney".

I also understand that, as the lender, you're entitled to be paid back as well.

Tough situation.
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