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re: FCC Chairman Ajit Pai: Why He's Rejecting Net Neutrality

Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134822 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:19 pm to
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The whole point is data caps to start with are nonsense
I have to pay double for two six packs of beer as someone who only buys one six pack of beer.

The government should do something about that!

Beer caps are nonsense!!!

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:19 pm to
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Far as I know a person can come in and open an ISP and provide whatever level of internet they want , anywhere they want.


Unfortunately this isn't the case. Not because of federal regulations, but mainly state and local.

The incumbent ISPs pay good money to these governments to keep competition out.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24080 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:19 pm to
After watching this interview, I like this guy.

I was originally against NN, have been leaning toward neutral to it based off the huge clamor and arguments for it, but I'm solidly back in the anti-NN camp. I think Ajit has a pretty strong argument here and anyone who calls themselves "libertarian" (which I don't) should be ashamed to support NN.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:20 pm to
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Caps are in place bc TV providers who also sell internet wan't you to pay for their over priced cable packages with channels people don't want.

OK.

Economics apply........ALWAYS
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:22 pm to
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OK.

Economics apply........ALWAYS



Ok yet still shows caps are bullshite

its just them trying to get back their money
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:22 pm to
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OK.

Economics apply........ALWAYS




This says nothing.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:24 pm to
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Ok yet still shows caps are bullshite
There's no article of faith here.

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its just them trying to get back their money
The frick you say! A business trying to earn back money.

Well blow me down.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298557 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:24 pm to
What happens when towns start regulating them like utilities. Like they do with electric, garbage etc? Crony deals, min and max charges, ...
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:24 pm to
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This says nothing.
It does to someone who understands economics.

Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:25 pm to
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It does to someone who understands economics.




Get through that first survey course this semester before you try and come around here and become a forum warrior, alright.

But by all means, spell it out for us simpletons. This should be fun.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134822 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:26 pm to
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its just them trying to get back their money
The hell you say!!!! That's un-American!!
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:27 pm to
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What happens when towns start regulating them like utilities. Like they do with electric, garbage etc


Some towns and cities have built their own networks which are far superior service than a majority of ISPs.

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Crony deals, min and max charges, ...




Local and State gov'ts already allowed local monopolies bc they get kick backs and campaign contributions.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 2:35 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31525 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:27 pm to
Well it was fun while it lasted. Have no idea why some of you support getting rid of NN, I guess it was just too much of a good thing.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:27 pm to
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Get through that first survey course this semester before you try and come around here and become a forum warrior, alright.


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But by all means, spell it out for us simpletons. This should be fun.

Says the guy who has been discussing this for hundreds of pages with dozens of people on TD while sticking his fingers in his ears at all responses.

It's been spelled out. You can't accept it.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:28 pm to
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The hell you say!!!! That's un-American!!



I never said it was un-American

It just proves the point that caps when talking about the usage of the consumer on the network are bullshite.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97836 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:28 pm to
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If you don't subscribe to cable tv its a big issue.

Lots of people cut the cord, bc they didnt want to pay for channels they don't want and pay to rent the equipment.



So the cheap ppl will be mad. Got it
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298557 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:28 pm to
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Some towns and cities have built their own networks with far superior service than a majority of ISPs.


As tech advances, they'll be in the dust.

Utilities are poorly managed on the public side. I prefer open competition and market forces
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 2:30 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:29 pm to
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its just them trying to get back their moneyThe hell you say!!!! That's un-American!!
Every now and then, they say something and you just go WTF.

Data caps are awful cause they're just trying to make money!!!

LOL. No fricking shite.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298557 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:29 pm to
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Have no idea why some of you support getting rid of NN, I guess it was just too much of a good thing.


How much of a difference did it make in your life?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134822 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:29 pm to
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It just proves the point that caps when talking about the usage of the consumer on the network are bullshite.


No, that's not proof of anything other than your wanting other internet users to subsidize your TV addiction....
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