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re: FCC Chairman Ajit Pai: Why He's Rejecting Net Neutrality
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:30 pm to Centinel
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:30 pm to Centinel
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Unfortunately this isn't the case. Not because of federal regulations, but mainly state and local.
The incumbent ISPs pay good money to these governments to keep competition out.
Okay so pass a stand alone federal law that forbids that kind of thing. Problem solved, right?
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:30 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I'm just wondering.
What do you folks think the net profit margin is for ISPs/wireless providers?
What do you folks think the net profit margin is for ISPs/wireless providers?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:30 pm to SDVTiger
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So the cheap ppl will be mad. Got it
Or people smart with their money
If you like giving away your money thats on you
I save roughly around $150 a month by cutting the cord
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:31 pm to ShortyRob
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Says the guy who has been discussing this for hundreds of pages with dozens of people on TD while sticking his fingers in his ears at all responses.
It's been spelled out. You can't accept it.
So spell it out.
You have the time for all these responses, make your argument. Or are you scared of getting exposed? Again.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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How much of a difference did it make in your life?
The internet as a platform where anyone could create the next big thing without having to grease the palms of Comcast first? It's made a huge difference in my life, yours, and everyone else's.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:33 pm to LSURussian
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No, that's not proof of anything other than your wanting other internet users to subsidize your TV addiction....
You really have no idea what you are talking about
The days of people buying bulk tv cable is shrinking.
The younger generation finds other ways to obtain their content.
People like you will keep propping up the tv providers.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:33 pm to DavidTheGnome
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The internet as a platform where anyone could create the next big thing without having to grease the palms of Comcast first? It's made a huge difference in my life, yours, and everyone else's.
So, before NN you didn't have that???
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:33 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Some towns and cities have built their own networks with far superior service than a majority of ISPs.
Chattanooga is a good example. Those frickers have 10Gig.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:34 pm to Centinel
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Chattanooga is a good example. Those frickers have 10Gig.
Yea that shite is crazy
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:35 pm to Centinel
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Chattanooga is a good example.
Which was installed before NN.
Open competition just allows the opportunity to compete which may not happen as a utility
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So, before NN you didn't have that???
There was no "before NN", I don't think you understand what you're talking about. Internet traffic has always been treated equally, now that's under threat.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:35 pm to stat19
I guess my favorite part of this whole NN discussion is the Soros versus Paul angle - who do you trust more?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Which was installed before NN.
Open competition just allows the opportunity to compete which may not happen as a utility
Bc they told the ISPs to frick off
Most cities and towns don't have that option.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:37 pm to DavidTheGnome
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There was no "before NN"
[quote]On February 26, 2015, the FCC ruled in favor of net neutrality by reclassifying broadband as a common carrier under Title II of the Communications Act of 1934 and Section 706 of the Telecommunications act of 1996. On April 13, 2015, the FCC published the final rule on its new "Net Neutrality" regulations.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:37 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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You really have no idea what you are talking about
The days of people buying bulk tv cable is shrinking.
The younger generation finds other ways to obtain their content.
People like you will keep propping up the tv providers
I'd like you to reread your own post. Insert the word internet provider in place of cable TV. Thank you
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:38 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
quote:
Which was installed before NN.
Open competition just allows the opportunity to compete which may not happen as a utility
Bc they told the ISPs to frick off
Most cities and towns don't have that option.
So you prefer a market with no competition? frick, no wonder you support this law
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:39 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
You really have no idea what you are talking about
The days of people buying bulk tv cable is shrinking.
The younger generation finds other ways to obtain their content.
People like you will keep propping up the tv providers.
Corporations arent going to simply take making less money.
There is two options.
1. Pay a much higher base rate for internet This affects everyone. Those who pay for one product or multiple products of a companies line. Not fair to their loyal customers but everyone is equal.
2. Cap data to recoup on people who only buy one of their products to compete with their other product. People who consume more (likely to cheat the system) pay more and the company recoups their lost income.
Given that I obtain content through legal means I prefer option 2.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:39 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Huntsville is doing something similar with the dark fiber from the local utility company Huntsville Utilities, but partnering with Google to run from Huntsville Utilities' lines to the home.
Comcast is NOT happy
ETA: I think this is an approach we'll see more of. Utility companies have a vested interest to run fiber to manage the smart grids. But then run a bit extra then lease that dark fiber out to ISPs who can come in and run the "last mile" and provide the switching equipment.
If I'm a major backbone provider like Century Link, I'd jump all over that.
Comcast is NOT happy
ETA: I think this is an approach we'll see more of. Utility companies have a vested interest to run fiber to manage the smart grids. But then run a bit extra then lease that dark fiber out to ISPs who can come in and run the "last mile" and provide the switching equipment.
If I'm a major backbone provider like Century Link, I'd jump all over that.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:40 pm to ShortyRob
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I'd like you to reread your own post. Insert the word internet provider in place of cable TV. Thank you
Most of them act as both
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:41 pm to Adam Banks
quote:those evil frickers! How dare they not let me use their product to bypass buying their other product! That's just unreasonable
2. Cap data to recoup on people who only buy one of their products to compete with their other product. People who consume more (likely to cheat the system) pay more and the company recoups their lost income
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