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re: FCC Chairman Ajit Pai: Why He's Rejecting Net Neutrality
Posted on 11/22/17 at 1:58 pm to bonhoeffer45
Posted on 11/22/17 at 1:58 pm to bonhoeffer45
quote:Dude. People respond to your silliness constantly.
You know how to tell when someone is clawing for their life in a conversation? When they can only muster the capacity to shite post frantically without addressing the point and only lob insults.
You just put your fingers in your ears.
They're not obligated to keep repeating themselves.
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 1:58 pm to Adam Banks
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Yes they are using data from a company to stream content they pay for from the same company. Said company is nice enough not to triple dip into their pocket book. Don't see how this is an issue
It still shows caps are bullshite
I pay $105 a month and have a cap,
yet another ISP that i don't have an option to get is able to offer the same speed with out a cap and cheaper.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 1:59 pm to Adam Banks
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And I can't believe your business ignorance
Yet some ISPs dont have caps......
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:01 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Can't believe you guys are arguing ISPs should be able to limit the amount of data you use.
You can't believe that we recognize the right of the seller of a product to set the parameters for which they will sell it?
I mean........I know this is shocking as frick
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:03 pm to ShortyRob
Caps are in place bc TV providers who also sell internet wan't you to pay for their over priced cable packages with channels people don't want.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:03 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Yet some ISPs dont have caps......
And? Just because one company jumps off a bridge means the other has to? I'd be willing to bet they have little in the way if television holdings so they want cord cutters. Or they have higher base fees. Or maybe they are just tech nerds trying to be nice.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:04 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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It still shows caps are bullshite
I pay $105 a month and have a cap,
yet another ISP that i don't have an option to get is able to offer the same speed with out a cap and cheaper.
But that's there prerogative, right? I mean remember in the old days when you had to pay per text? Every carrier did it that way, and then whomever came out with "unlimited texting" and that forced EVERYONE to go to unlimited texting. Same thing will happen here, maybe just slower but eventually data caps will be a thing of the past on their own.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:05 pm to Adam Banks
Bc they want business of people who also know caps are bullshite
Look at Cox for example
In areas they have no real competition, they now have data caps. Yet in areas they have to fight for business there are no caps.
Proving yet again caps are bullshite
Look at Cox for example
In areas they have no real competition, they now have data caps. Yet in areas they have to fight for business there are no caps.
Proving yet again caps are bullshite
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:05 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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But that's there prerogative, right? I mean remember in the old days when you had to pay per text? Every carrier did it that way, and then whomever came out with "unlimited texting" and that forced EVERYONE to go to unlimited texting. Same thing will happen here, maybe just slower but eventually data caps will be a thing of the past on their own.
You have to eliminate local ISP monopolies for that to happen.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:08 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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In areas they have no real competition, they now have data caps. Yet in areas they have to fight for business there are no caps.
You have a link for that? I'd like to see what their justification is for the two disparate policies. I can't imagine the justification is "because we can."
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:09 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:Further evidence you're a socialist.....
Can't believe you guys are arguing ISPs should be able to limit the amount of data you use.
How often are ISP customers cut off from the internet because they hit a data "cap"? I just googled and can't find any examples of that happening.
What I found was the customer has to pay more for additional data over his monthly "cap" or his data speed is slowed. It's at the customer's option what happens.
The customer pays for what he uses. Sounds fair to me.....
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:09 pm to Centinel
quote:I wouldn't call 150 mb/s a second a niche market. Aside from the gaming and 4k video implications there is also the need to support a larger number of devices. A family of four each with a TV in their room and living room, plus 4 iPhones, an xbox, 2-3 tablets/laptops....is not a niche scenario...And for that you may want higher speeds.
Why would they not need to exist? There are people who will pay those prices. But they are a fraction of the majority of their business in which 50MBs is currently perfectly fine.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:10 pm to LSURussian
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Further evidence you're a socialist.....
How often are ISP customers cut off from the internet because they hit a data "cap"? I just googled and can't find any examples of that happening.
What I found was the customer has to pay more for additional data over his monthly "cap" or his data speed is slowed. It's at the customer's option what happens.
The customer pays for what he uses. Sounds fair to me.....
The whole point is data caps to start with are nonsense
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:13 pm to Centinel
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You have a link for that? I'd like to see what their justification is for the two disparate policies. I can't imagine the justification is "because we can."
Posters who subscribe cox where posting the emails they got about the data cap while others who used cox never had the change made.
Or how AT&T gig service has no cap yet the other tiers have 1TB.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:14 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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The whole point is data caps to start with are nonsense
Ppl dont seem to care about this as much as you do
Thats why this nn is just faux outrage
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:16 pm to SDVTiger
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Ppl dont seem to care about this as much as you do
Thats why this nn is just faux outrage
If you don't subscribe to cable tv its a big issue.
Lots of people cut the cord, bc they didnt want to pay for channels they don't want and pay to rent the equipment.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:16 pm to Centinel
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Your entire argument you always make can be summed up thusly:
Internet isn't equal everywhere therefore ISPs should be regulated because.
No facts. No logic. Just appeals to emotion
See, this gets to what people have been telling you about how just saying something doesn’t actually make it so. Which your desire to constantly misrepresent just further speaks to how hollow and weak your arguments have been, that it requires you to lie and set up straw men to try and keep it going.
LINK
You even posted on that page but like always, you tend to avoid addressing people’s posts in favor of shilling and regurgitating poorly reasoned and lacking substance talking points.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:16 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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You have to eliminate local ISP monopolies for that to happen.
What monopoly? Far as I know a person can come in and open an ISP and provide whatever level of internet they want , anywhere they want. Obviously that would be expensive, and if you wanted to make an argument that the government should fund something akin to the post office where they provide a high speed internet connection to every home. I might could get on board with that argument, but that doesn't make the situation we have now one of a monopoly.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:18 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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What monopoly? Far as I know a person can come in and open an ISP and provide whatever level of internet they want , anywhere they want.
O dear god no
thats not what the ISP market is like at all
Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:18 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Posters who subscribe cox where posting the emails they got about the data cap while others who used cox never had the change made.
Where the other users who never had the change made using the same amount of data?
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Or how AT&T gig service has no cap yet the other tiers have 1TB.
Are the other tiers delivered via fiber? I say this because it could be a switch issue. Fiber being the newer infrastructure might handle the data loads better than the old coax tiers.
A Cisco Nexus 9K can process far, far more data than an old school 6500.
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