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re: Fauxi: Americans should continue wearing masks after Covid

Posted on 5/10/21 at 7:47 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124997 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 7:47 am to
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collectively we would've been better as a society if we embraced the practice during cold & flu season the way a lot of the Asian societies have done.


No.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
9291 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 7:47 am to
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The CDC did not report seasonal flu deaths this past season. They put out a memo that they didn't have the time to count those numbers because of their time spent on the covid numbers.


This is a very good point. Fauci wants to have it both ways and there is a serious flaw in his thinking here.

If the masks and other forms of NPI are to be credited with the virtual absence of a flu season, then this proves just how ineffective these practices were for COVID. Flu is the positive control in the experiment. It went down while COVID went up.

Put another way, if flu season didn't happen because of our NPI, why did the nationwide COVID surge occur in December and January? Why was there a surge in Michigan in April?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124997 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 7:52 am to
Because there was a surge in Michigan in April of 2020. I wonder when Michigan sees peak flu numbers?

Spoiler alert: it’s March/April.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 7:53 am
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56063 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 7:53 am to
People might to elect masks to avoid flu.

Good to know Tony
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47866 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:28 am to
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They look like idiots. But we are free to look like idiots.


And it certainly ids most of them as full-bred lemmings. (there are certain instances where wearing masks is an individual necessity or courtesy - over 3 years ago I had a constant cough and a severely compromised immune system due to the regimen of chemotherapy I had been on for 10 years - so I would wear one of my lawn-mowing masks when I went into any crowded area (mostly the grocery store) Just didn't want other patrons to feel uncomfortable as I walked around coughing like a TB patient)

I suspect small percentage of others have non-covid motives as well - but all are suspect because of this Fauci dilemma.
Posted by PennyPacker
Where things are bigger and better
Member since Jan 2010
1062 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:57 am to
Well maybe in some areas but I can promise you that here in TX.... that's not gonna be the "norm".

He can go hear sheep somewhere else.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12820 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:07 am to
The pro mask people should wear mask for every flu season . But sheep have to be told how to feel and what to do .
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
18995 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:13 am to
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due to the success health officials saw in preventing the spread of the seasonal flu as a result of mask mandates.

frick you, Fauci. We didn't prevent seasonal flu with masks. You just dumped them into the bullshite COVID numbers.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116658 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:14 am to
Here's the deal. If Fauci told the press: 'Everything is fine now. Forget about Covid. Just carry on.'
Then the press would never put him behind the mic again. He is addicted to celebrity so he has to keep it going.
The press only wants to report bad news. Good news = the press ignores you. Right now the headline at Yahoo is 'New Covid Crisis'. The story is that we have TOO MUCH vaccine and we don't know what to do with it. Oh, the horror!
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78153 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:15 am to
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If the masks and other forms of NPI are to be credited with the virtual absence of a flu season, then this proves just how ineffective these practices were for COVID. Flu is the positive control in the experiment. It went down while COVID went up.


The control Isn’t the flu, it’s doing nothing if you’re testing the effectiveness of masks/social distancing/washing your hands preventing a different disease.

This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 11:16 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45947 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:17 am to
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I think people have gotten used to the fact that wearing masks clearly, if you look at the data, diminishes respiratory diseases.


Except for COVID19.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
37016 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:17 am to
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people are over it.


Was in Mexico last week and talked to so many Americans from locked down states who wanted to escape to some freedom Bc Mexico didn’t give a shite except at the airport
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
16748 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:27 am to
It will be much easier to determine who the dumbass libs are in the future. Just like the people on planes wearing double masks or mask + face shield.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26814 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:29 am to
He's irrelevant, he just doesn't want to accept it.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4601 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:31 am to
I was at the Grand Canyon last week. Clearly the National Parks leadership thinks and treats this thing like it was still running rampant.

The workers who work there and live there do not. One told me that because he lives on the park property, that even while off duty, if he steps outside, he must be masked at all times or risk being fired.

They had signs up all over about mandatory mask use. It was strictly enforced going inside buildings. But outside, I'd say that 98% of the folks were ignoring the signs and not wearing them outdoors in the park.

Someone at the federal level has turned the majority of flight attendants into Mask Nazi's as well.
Southwest Airlines has also changed policy. If you wear any type of vented mask or bandana type mask, they are not approved via them and you will be made to switch to one of the blue medical ones they give you.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
9291 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:34 am to
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The control Isn’t the flu, it’s doing nothing if you’re testing the effectiveness of masks/social distancing/washing your hands preventing a different disease.


I'm not sure how many different ways I can say that this statement is absolutely false.

NPI recommendations were developed to reduce transmission of communicable diseases with influenza being the far most common. If the argument is made that our NPI recommendations and policies are responsible for low numbers of flu cases while COVID surged, then the conclusion is that NPI was ineffective and containing COVID.

I'll give you an FDA example. Drug A reduces plasma glucose, but I want an additional indication for hypertension. So I recruit 10,000 diabetic and hypertensive subjects from 10 national centers and give them my drug. As expected, glycemic control is restored in my study while blood pressure rises. On what planet am I getting an indication for hypertension following my study? I know my drug was properly administered to my population because glucose came down. It's the positive control in the experiment.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162064 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:36 am to
Lemme guess only BLM's masks amirite?
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4601 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:42 am to
The Flu didn't disappear, it just got lumped into COVID because COVID paid and Type-A and Type-B did not.

No other explanation for someone testing positive on a Type-B test and then also testing positive on a COVID at the same appointment.

Masks were nothing more than a TEST to see who all they can control and herd into the rail cars easily when the time comes.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26305 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:53 am to
I'll wear a mask the day Faucci stops making shite up
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
87010 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:57 am to
Time to tar/feather and openly expose him to the public to ridicule.

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