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Posted on 7/30/26 at 4:31 pm to SixthAndBarone
Posted on 7/30/26 at 6:31 pm to SixthAndBarone
Look up Burbick vs USA of 1915. This was a USSC decision.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 6:37 pm to KiwiHead
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state AG has nothing to go on from a criminal standpoint.
You sure about that?
Posted on 7/30/26 at 6:39 pm to SixthAndBarone
Fowchy will not lose anything and he will die a rich man....and the taxpayers lost!
Posted on 7/30/26 at 6:47 pm to SixthAndBarone
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I have no sympathy for the douche bag but to see all the outrage on here is laughable. The next step is convict him of contempt of congress and then fight in court. Will they do it?
No offense but you are out of your depth here. The fact that he pleaded the fifth when he presumably had immunity is likely a Supreme Court issue. All the facts surrounding this make it clear that the nature of the pardon is inappropriate and not contemplated in the constitution.
Further, the fact that the little cocksucker had an opening statement that calls out the committee and senator Paul undermines not only the position that he has taken to plead the fifth but also his own pardon that should give him immunity over the matter.
This is a way more complex than “he should have been honest”. This man caused the most expensive shite storm in the world’s history and now he is is going to top it off with an intense legal debate that is legitimately gray. You say he can be convicted of contempt, but we don’t actually know the answer to that.
None of us would be in his position, that’s the point. You either did the best you could, tell the truth and lean on your pardon or you fight like hell and maintain you have done nothing wrong. Him taking the fifth is yet another selfish act that will consume major US resources- that is why there is outrage and if you think it’s laughable maybe you should pay attention to something else that’s actually funny.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 6:52 pm to SixthAndBarone
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So if you were in his position, why the hell wouldn’t you plead the 5th?
He didn't want to enter a perjury trap. He didn't. On the advise of counsel.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 6:57 pm to Vacherie Saint
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consider these unquestioned truths.... a government official used tax payer dollars to fund ILLEGAL virus research in partnership with the communist chinese. their "work product" was released and killed millions of innocent people. he lied, under oath, about his involvement, then proceeded to tell us how we should live our lives - no school, no work, no worship, mask, distance, and compulsory vaccines. economies destroyed, education lost, loved ones die alone and afraid, soldiers fired, elections turned upside down, the world is changed forever.
Exactly.
frick the OP for trying to characterize the outrage as being related to him taking the 5th.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 7:00 pm to KiwiHead
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Fauci's greater liability is that if he said anything in those hearings it could be used to facilitate a perjury charge of things said in that hearing. Yeah, he has a pardon for things he might have done prior to its issuance but he's not protected for things that could have been said yesterday. He did not have immunity going into that hearing. If he had immunity things could have been different and you could prosecute for contempt.
This is illogical.
It sounds like you think he would need to have immunity for lying under oath to be compelled to testify.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 7:24 pm to Jbird
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Entrap?
fricker has immunity.
VOR sees it as entrapment because Fauci can no longer lie.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 9:20 pm to moneyg
Bingo any proggy that has to answer simple questions would be considered entrapment.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 10:29 pm to KiwiHead
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Fauci's greater liability is that if he said anything in those hearings it could be used to facilitate a perjury charge of things said in that hearing.
This is incorrect. The Supreme Court has ruled that you CANNOT plead the 5th to avoid potential perjury. The 5th only applies to past crimes.
This is settled law. SCOTUS has ruled on what the 5th allows in numerous cases. Key points that came out of these cases:
1) The 5th only protects you from past crimes, not future ones.
2) You cannot plead the fifth if you already were guaranteed immunity (or have a pardon).
3) You do not get to take the stand and "pick and choose" which questions to answer. Once you take the stand, you either plead 5th for all questions or none of them.
4) You do not get to lie on the stand and claim that the immunity makes you immune from prosecution for perjury (This is what Glickstein argued in 1911). In other words, once you are immune, you must tell the truth on the stand even if it makes you look like a scumbag. The Fifth is not designed to protect your public reputation - it is only there to keep you from being compelled to help prosecute yourself.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 10:32 pm to SixthAndBarone
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I have no sympathy for the douche bag but to see all the outrage on here is laughable
Yea you are right, he is only responsible for millions of deaths and millions of business failures.
You should think about what you posted there.
Posted on 7/31/26 at 3:05 am to SixthAndBarone
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plead
* pleaded or pled.
Posted on 7/31/26 at 3:38 am to beerJeep
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Why did the democrats allow trump to be elected if they had evidence of the trump did bad things with Epstein?
Where’s the evidence against Fauci? He’s going to jail, right?
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